Hedge

Obviously not an option as it makes too much sense for all parties involved.

Exactly.  That said, I don't think I'm doing you or me any favors by rehashing this over and over again. Obviously, it does neither of us any good if the new 1V fails. I have an open complaint with SBR and a promise from Griffin to pay the outstanding balance.  I'll let them iron it out for now.  In the meantime, I wish you the best of luck in getting your monthly installments. 

Delete your name in email, Hedge

done, thanks.

hedge I am certain any conversation you had with them was recorded that is standard practice.

 

You should ask them to post the phone call.

I've had this conversation with Griff before (see below), nothing came of it--except another empty promise to pay the 7k.

i guess the squeaky wheel gets the grease sometimes... still seems a bit rotten to me to take a deal, then want the rest of it too and file complaints until you get it.  your "fair deal" would put you in a better position than every single other person who had money there (since there would be no rollover, no partial giveback, etc).  i guess fair is a relative term.

 

A complaint was filed by a player who won $7,000 total from contests at two third-party forums. The player agreed to a settlement whereby he received only funds won from his straight-up deposits, though the player feared he would not be paid if he did not accept the settlement; the player now wants to be paid in full. SBR advises players to avoid making agreements while under duress, as once a deal is reached, few betting sites will break an established agreement.

My "deal" was $5000 or nothing, so I don't apologize for taking it.  Unlike others, Downsouth for example,I wasn't offered a payment plan for my full balance.  I don't think SBR knew this when they posted  what you quoted, and I have since updated them on my situation.   The $7000 in contest winnings was fully rolled over, but I offered to do the additional 10X RO that others have had to do, even more if need be. However, 1-Vice considers my action too sharp, fearing that I would increase the 7k owed.  So their solution was to take the 7k up front and pay the rest immediately.   Not sure how that scores on the "Fair" range, but it is what it is.  FWIW, I agree with you that those that were paid a smaller % up front should be given higher priority than my debt.

And if my AUNT had a COCK, she'd be my UNCLE

 

Just saying

Sorry your "Aunt" abused you. I thought we were talking hoops.

Gee Whiz thanks for that info. I've never ever watched a tournament game. Did any of those 16s win their 2nd round game?

I was starting to think you hadn't. Just saying there have been some very close calls.

Cool story BRO. When you get a minute to spare, tell me another one.

8. 1997 – (1) North Carolina vs. (16) Fairfield

A night on which Dean Smith tied Adolph Rupp’s 876 win total was almost ruined by a team that went 11-18 in the regular season. The Stags actually led by seven at halftime and were within three points with just 3:33 to play. UNC pulled it out, though, and won the game 82-74. Whew!

7. 1986 – (1) Duke vs. (16) Mississippi Valley State

The Mississippi Valley State Delta Devils led by 11 points in the second half and forced 23 turnovers in the game. All-American Johnny Dawkins brought the Blue Devils back, though, and Duke ended up winning 85-78.

6. 1989 – (1) Illinois vs. (16) McNeese State

McNeese State (which I’m still not convinced is a real school) gave top seeded Illinois everything they could handle, but Illinois was able to hang on in the end, winning the game by six, 77-71.

5. 1985 – (1) Michigan vs. (16) Fairleigh Dickinson

The Fairleigh Dickinson Knights led by six at the half in this one. Head coach Tom Green (not the one who starred in Freddy Got Fingered) was with the team then and is still with the team now. They ended up losing the game 59-55, but in the first year of the 64-team format, they’ll forever be remembered as the first #16 to ever really challenge a #1.

4. 1996 – (1) Purdue vs. (16) Western Carolina

Western Carolina was down by just two points with the ball in the final seconds of the game. They took a three pointer that would’ve given them the lead with just a few ticks left on the clock. The Catamounts missed the shot, but grabbed the offensive rebound and had yet another chance to tie it. Unfortunately, it bounced off the back rim. One could argue that this was close as a #16 has ever been to advancing to the second round.

3. 1989 – (1) Oklahoma vs. (16) East Tennessee State

1989 was the year of the near upset. I already touched on Illinois’ six-point escape of McNeese State, and there was definitely more to come. The Sooners managed to edge East Tennessee State by one point in this contest, 72-71, despite Keith “Mister” Jennings going berserk for the upstart Buccaneers.

2. 1989 – (1) Georgetown vs. (16) Princeton

Yes. TWO 16 seeds were within a single basket of knocking off #1 seeds in 1989. Princeton actually held the ball during the final seconds in this one as well. They took two shots that could have won it, but Alonzo Mourning wouldn’t have it. He blocked both attempts by the Tigers, and Georgetown held on to win the game by the skin of their teeth.

1. 1990 – (1) Michigan State vs. (16) Murray State

I’ll break the suspense – Michigan State won by four. So, why is this No. 1 on my list? Because Michigan State had to go to overtime to make it happen. To this day, the 1990 Murray State Racers are the only #16 seed not to lose in regulation. The fat man competed with the body builder to the very end, and the judges needed extra time to make a decision. The Racers played one of the best games a huge underdog has ever played. I applaud them.

There have been a couple of single digit games, so I wouldn't say never. In fact, I'll bet whatever you want that it eventually happens.

Thanks for checking in Hedge.

No problem. Hope I helped with your girl trouble. If it really becomes an issue, you can always deflate her and return her to the back of the closet.

Fishs latest comment of "easy to acquire, hard to get rid of" kind of hit home for me.

 

Almost all the dudes I know have been taking to the woodshed due to a woman. Loss of personal property, ect.

 

The most successful people I know have had their financial life tarnished, ran to the ground by a woman. We're talking the freaking Hindenburg.

 

 

There are those select few couples i know that have met even in h/s and been kicking it ever since.

 

 

There's an old saying, "you never truly know someone until you live with them".

 

So when's a good time to live with your chick?

Why spend time worrying about problems you'll never have?

I think they will just be using a younger man to play the role. The new ads will likely be similar to the current theme.

Caught this thread late. Good call Yisman.

Race 9

Post: 7:13 PM ET Dirt

5 1/2 Furlongs | CLAIMING | Purse: $7,800

# Horse Jockey

Weight

Trainer Win $ Place $ Show $

9 Mister Europa J. Lermyte

120Lbs

J. Haran 6.80 4.80 3.60

6 Valient Tenobob E. Perez

120Lbs

J. Jackson 9.20 6.00

4 Sterlingten J. Molina, Jr.

120Lbs

M. Perez 5.60

Kasich will win Ohio....Ohio people too smart.....

Agree, Kasich win his home state.  Not sure it speaks to the intelligence of Ohio residents.

Then your in good shape. Heck it will take me 9 months to get to 5k.

I get your point, 1V might not be in business in 9 months. Maybe 1V did me a favor by not offering the full payment option they gave you. Time will tell.

Griffin said he would pay you off if you gave him time in that other thread. Have you called him up and hashed it out? Seems he would probably like to get this behind him and is at least open to paying you. This seems to be his biggest hurdle to moving forward, I'd say you've got leverage.

Funny that you mentioned this, because he repeated the same promise to me yesterday.  However, he won't commit to a timetable.  This conversation began because I got the same deposit bonus email that RichSox24 received, despite asking Griff  repeatedly to take me off his advertising.  I should post the exchange of emails we had (I still might), but I'll give the "cliff notes". Knowing that money is tight there, my offer was for 35 monthly payouts of $200 each to erase my 7k debt. I thought it was fair considering that I got more upfront than most.  It would likely make me the last one paid off,  assuming they lasted another 3 years--which seems highly unlikely now. I thought it was a fair offer.

What constitutes a book labeling someone as "sharp" and cutting them off?  Are they just betting line moves that these bonus books are slow to move on?  Hedge, can't you bet your plays for higher limits at better books, or are bonus books just much easier to beat?

With 1-Vice, "Sharp" means anyone up on them lifetime.  And half of what I was up with 1V were contest wins here and at MadJacks ($5000 college football regular season win). Without the bonus, a full juice Book like 1V would be very difficult to beat, although they did have some soft prop odds.  I didn't play steam there, but 1V would often take a position on certain NFL games that you could unload on (and offset elsewhere if so inclined). So rollover wasn't that hard to do there (especially if you could hedge at  reduced Books like 5D and Heritage).  

1vice doesn't want me, or I would deposit

Then thank your lucky stars they don't want you. 

Without knowing all the details, it sounds like hedge was screwed and is pissed about it.  It also sounds like wvu had to settle, but isnt upset.  Who knows if there are others with no forum presence.  

Egg Zack Lee.  

My only option was to take a 5k settlement. No payment plan on the rest of my balance was ever presented. And certainly no offer to rollover any part of my balance because I'm considered "Sharp".  However, 1V would have you believe that this "Sharp" willingly gave back 7k.  Can't have it both ways.

Late

 

Bump yanks post

Thanks.

Any cause for concern?:

Online sportsbook 5Dimes caught up in Costa Rica money laundering probe

By: calvinayre.com
Published: Mar 3, 2016
 

 

those non-business bad debts are limited to your basis in the theft (so you would have to stick 7000 in first) and it's only deductible in the year you reasonably assumed it to be worthless, which i'm guessing is 2016

Damn, can't win for losing.   

I haven't done my 2015 taxes yet. So can I claim the $7000 1-Vice stiffing against my winnings for 2015?  Or do I have to apply the 7k theft to possible 2016 winnings?

true can't blame hedge or anyone else, hedge in particular was a terrible victim of bad timing, winning those contests at the wrong time

 

he knew the risks/rewards of playing at 1vice, especially after the nba promo started, but he still should've been paid in full

I think his point is that you don't post much and when you do post the reasons are clear.

 

I agree with you that your winnings at other books has no bearing on your 1V situation.

I also agree that you were in a tough spot and were ripped off and stolen from.

Fair enough, thanks Plommer.  Admittedly, I fell out of touch with TGF after 1V pulled its advertising.  

Was hedge given 2 options?

 

Payment plan

 

Smaller amount up front

 

Took latter now seeing he would have gotten paid in full under option #1?

 

 

Inquiring minds want to know

Never offered the payment plan, Boats. It was a lump sum only "settlement" with zero negotiation.  Fact.