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The accountant's math is flawed. There were more recent posts in other forums here. He missed the one where I thanked Griff for my 2nd place prize in the Vegas contest here, a prize which was later taken back. Also, for a guy with a math background, it escapes me how Mike thinks my winnings at other Books has any bearing on my 1V situation. Long story short, I wouldn't want "the accountant" doing my taxes.

Not sure what my past success at other Books has to do with 1V. FWIW, I'm down lifetime at Northbet. How should they figure into this in your opinion? No real chance at losing??? Come on Mike, how long have been gambling? There's risk on every bet you make.

No, I won my limit at HR Wager and also at America's Bookie before that (probably why I wasn't allowed to play at the new 1V). I was treated very well at both Books, getting paid in full by both.

FWIW, I just used Blockchain to do my first ever BitCoin deposit. It went through smoothly.

No, I was only given the lump sum offer, the remainder had to be forfeited in order to collect the "settlement". Maybe it was because my balance was higher than most. I think you were owed 7k if I recall correctly. Did you have to do additional rollover on your balance or were you also prohibited from playing with the new 1V? Also, I'm not angling to line jump anyone on payouts. I just found it distasteful that Griff is back to giving away contest money, while others like yourself wait to be paid. I really hope you collect your entire balance.

I don't recall saying anything about AB. As for Zack, I simply stated he made the offer, and to his credit he sent it very quickly. My problem is with Griff, who is responsible for this mess. He gets a 2nd chance with a new partner, and he's back to his same old bad habits--giving away more contest money he doesn't have, and may very well welch on again. His no-vig March special is going to be another cash drain. If I were one of the many unfortunate "Rollover Hostages", I wouldn't feel too good about the start of this new partnership.

I agreed to take 5k instead of nothing. Griff lied repeatedly about my pending payout (3k check) before canceling it before the Super Bowl. He then sent me an email stating that my action was no longer welcome with the switch to the RDG platform. The new partner, Zack (aka Robbie) called me to say that he could only offer me 5k of the 12k 1 Vice owed me. It was a take it or leave it offer.

What would you like to know Deemer? Bet Islands stole my entire 10k balance years ago and HRW gave me a bailout. Now, 1-Vice paid me 5k of my 12k balance and stole the rest. Pretty straight forward.

1 Vice stiffed me for $7000 in contest wins, $2k here and $5k at Madjacks. Then today, less than 2 weeks later I receive an offer from Stiffin' Griffen to enter his NCAA tourney bracket contest (see below). The prick obviously forgot to take me off his mailing list. He can't afford to pay his clients off, but he can sponsor another contest.....WTF? While many clients are completing a forced rollover on their balance that should be free and clear, Stiffin Griffin is still doing the same old things that got him into this situation. Never change 1-Vice. From: Griffin <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 12:35 PM Subject: FREE ENTRY 1vice sports NCAAB Bracket Contest! Its Griffin from 1vice sportsbook I want to speak to you about giving you a FREE entry into our NCAAB Bracket Contest! Are you interested? Can I call you? Griffin

Griff gave me the run around too, stalling/canceling payouts leading up to the Super Bowl. Later I learned I was not allowed to play with the new 1V/ RDG as I was considered "Sharp". My "settlement" (actually a take it or leave it ultimatum) was 40 cents on the dollar. I received $5000 of the $12,000 I was owed. The $7000 stolen was contest winnings here and at another forum, all of which was fully rolled over. If you still have a balance there, complete your RO and get the fuck out of this shit joint.

Congrats!

George did me a big favor and I'm grateful. He bailed me out of Bet Islands theft.

That we agree on. In retrospect, they dug a hole early and never got out.

I agree. Not saying it's easy (I was a bookie), but their promos, NBA Double Pay excluded, were not as outrageous as some claim.

Do the math. 300% bonus with 20x RO at a full juice Book favors the house. As for withdrawal limits, I could get $3000 monthly no problem.

Before the NBA promo, no way. The bonuses still had house advantage for a full juice book. And payouts were as promised up until that point.

Easy to call it a Ponzi book after the fact. I was with 1V for nearly 3 years. All of their bonuses were in line with rollovers, even the 300% (20x RO). They always paid out in a timely manner. Then the NBA double play came and it was a very obvious red flag. I would have gotten out if I didn't have a lot of RO left on a recent contest win ($5000 x 6 RO).

Seeing that it could happen and being able to react are two very different things. When that asinine NBA promo came out, I still had tens of thousands in rollover left. I completed it but the clock ran out.

Same with me. I'm up 12k, mostly through contest wins win here and Mad Jack's ($5000). I completed the RO and now I'm shuffled to the back of the pack with no payoff plan in place by 1V or RDG. It's as if your big balance makes you a bonus/contest whore by definition. You support the forum contests with $500 deposits and then get labeled a sharp when you win them. Yea right, we're the bad guys in all this mess and deserve to get stiffed.

Not from where I'm standing. AB merges with 1V, but only wants to share the assets and not honor the liabilities. Sounds shady as hell to me. I'd like to hear what AB has to say about this.

If America's Bookie, a.k.a. RDG Corp, is not paying ALL 1-Vice clients, then TGF should take down their banner, too. AB shouldn't get to cherry pick the accounts they want and stiff the rest.

Thank you for being patient while we transitioned to our new software solution, and upgraded our business model. We have done our best to accommodate all accounts. Unfortunately we were unable to have your account assumed because your style of play does NOT meet our new business model. Feel free to contact me personalty, if you have any questions. Griffin I will be in the office everyday after 7pm eastern 1-866-813-6818 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Have to deposit at least $500 to participate in these contests. I get your jealously. Go suck a dick, KK.

Obviously this is not your area of expertise, because it's not where I made my money. It was mainly on contests at MadJacks ($5000) and here ($3000).FWIW, I do like my chances on eventually getting paid. However, if I'm wrong, I'll gladly refer to your area of expertise: How do you take it up the ass?

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