Hedge

It's not about getting paid next week, it's about having answers next week. That's what was promised in emails sent out to those that are owed. Either 1V has a plan next week or it's all a stall tactic.

I don't get it. Can you explain it to the straight guys?

Fair enough, but my points (and benefits) were taken away before I got to those levels. IMO "Bonus Books" give at least 50% bonuses in re-ups.

Next week will be make or break. Hopefully payout plans will be in place by then.

DSI is a Bonus Book? LOL, the 100% is basically for new accounts. After that you get 10% re-ups (20% Tues & Weds).

I just saw it, too. Also my limits were raised from 0 to $1.

Good point, but if you're owed 12k like me, you're careful about antagonizing 1 Vice. I had a scheduled $3000 payout that was supposed to arrive this week (requested Jan 12th). It was canceled last week. Waiting to hear when payouts will resume, and hope others will post when paid.

I do my own handicapping, so I concentrate on betting early and getting the best line available at that time. To do this, you need many outs with some of them having early opening lines. Usually I beat the closing line, but I'm on the wrong side of line moves my share of the time. It's a grind and you have to realize it if you take betting seriously. PS "No juice when you win" is only valid if you win every time. Otherwise, you are paying juice like the rest of us, probably more if you believe that BS.

Not sure that's relevant to anyone but you. Unless you have a preference to which one is going to screw you worse!

WTF, I was just answering a poster's question dumbass.

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If you email him, I would think he'd open it up for your viewing. Shouldn't matter to him if he set your limits to 0 like me.

My outstanding $3000 payout was canceled today and added back into my account. So will our outstanding balances be transferred to RDG for payment? If not, why cancel pending payouts?

Someone should start a 1 Vice balance thread to get an idea how much is owed. Guessing it's better than 6 figures at TGF alone.

I recently won $5000 at MJ and $1000 at TGF in December. Just completed the rollovers 2 weeks ago and asked for a $3000 check. Now that's on hold. Just bad timing on my winning as it prevented me from getting my own money out.

You shouldn't feel bad for me. I was up overall with BI, even including the 10k they took. Same with 1V, I'm money ahead no matter what. But a 12k hit will still sting quite a bit.

Yes, I got hit there too for about 10k. HRW's George bailed me out.

Got the email today, too. I have a 3k check payout pending from 2 weeks ago and another 9k+ in balance (over 12 grand total ). I'll post if/when the check arrives.

Unless it's a tranny witch!

"It is if your mouth is open" Hedge 2016

"Penile Dementia" if you will.

Definitely not 1V. Try to get your "facts" straight.

Have you ever played at 1V? The promo was a disaster to be sure, but they pay their clients in a timely manner.

From: Griffin <[email protected]>Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 8:46 AM Subject: NBA GRIFFIN Hello I am writing to you to formally apologize for the cancellation of our NBA promotion we offered you and then had to discontinue. I understand you are concerned and you might feel cheated in some way, and I agree on some level. When we came up with the promotional offer we were not counting on the greedy nature of some of our clients and that is the reason we pulled the plug. There were several cases where clients brought in their direct relatives and some case entire families, under different names in order to bonus whore us to death and to get past the strict betting limits we had in place as a safety for this promotion. I am very generous with my money when it comes to giving back to my clients, however when things like this happen it ruins it for all involved and makes me feel like someone has just stuck their hand in my pocket and tried to steal my wallet. I am not writing to make excuses. The bottom line is the promotion was a terrible idea from the word go and I had to put a stop to it. I am now open to review your account here once more and try to offer you a better service to make you more comfortable here. Please let me know if you have any issues with your account that you would like to change and I will do my best to try and accommodate you or. In conclusion I want you to know that I do value your business and also our reputation, I hope you can understand this had to be stopped and I meant no ill will towards you. Thanks Griffin

Did anyone else receive an apology letter from Griff yesterday regarding the NBA promo? I have mixed emotions on it. He blamed the bonus whores for ruining the promo for the regular clients, but I disagree. The promo encouraged bonus hunters to participate, offering up to 5 teams per depositor (if I remember correctly) if you could pony up $500 for each one. It was so +Ev for clients and horribly -Ev for 1V that it sent up huge red flags. Still I bought one for $500 and saw my limits drop to $300 in a few weeks and then to $100 later before they finally pulled the plug. I wish they never offered it as it severely tarnished their reputation, and I'm not sure they'll recover from it. It's a shame because Griff has supported TGF and other forums generously, giving away tens of thousands in contest winnings. I personally won big via a 2nd place finish here in the Vegas contest and the $5000 grand prize in the Mad Jack's regular season contest. The guy is generous to a fault, but he really screwed up on that NBA Double Pay offer which was obviously doomed from the start. I've forgiven him for it and am moving on, but I certainly understand why others are less inclined.