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I just don't see the result being changed or justified. Kelly obviously loves these touts. I don't even know if Vodoo is an entrant in the contest. Kelly fucked up. He should definitely remedy the situation somehow. Idk if it would be fair to make Vodoo resubmit 13 plays or what...

Just read a chapter on remedies about 30 minutes ago.

This is absolutely crazy. Never got a full list of participants. This is fucking nuts. Kelly is hella shady. Odds I even get my 3rd place Money? +400?

Now, what the fuck? Am I reading Voodoo's post right on page 59. Desethi gave him his entry, yet dsethi is still in the fucking contest?

I respect all honesty. I didn't think I'd hold on to #1. I was hoping to cash in #2. Now #3 is most likely destination. It's utter bullshit Vodoo wins with these shady plays, not to mention, he fired off 15-20 plays a day down the stretch... a lot of 'skill' in that.

Found it posts #1851. What a fucking joke.

If you're being sarcastic, you have me. Please do. Read Rules 10/11 on the 1st page and basically pages 59-60 for the bullshit. I wish I could find the part where JK said "Vodoo is the real deal and posted his link", it's in there somewhere.

He fucked me over. Of course the plays came AFTER the deadline and he posted them as soon as he saw them. Never had a bad thing to say about him, but now I know why they call him Kickback Kelly now.

I was in 1st throughout about 90% of the contest, I hit 60% early in first month / half. I'm currently in 2nd, 1 guy ahead of me has 98 plays if he goes 0-1-1 or 0-2 I'll pass him, other than that he locked me outta 1. This Vodoo guy has been randomly picking 10-15 games a day. Now these "secret" plays he goes 11-2.

This answer is shocking. At least you're consistent. I won't brutalize you for your opinion however. I think it is entirely crazy but opinion is an opinion.

Lol, didn't even read rules. Rule 10/11 of post 1.

Seanie, chime in, pal.

I don't understand BigDaddy's post, or boat's. I'm curious to hear KR/Boat's take seeing as how they know Kelly and these contests the best. On page like 40ish-50ish he said something about how 'Vodoo is the real deal' and posted a link to some tout page. So - I assume he is buddies with him. The guy admitted he posted them at 10am in an email (idk if that is CA timezone) and after noon, but Kelly conveniently posts them all at 12:30 AM when all games are final.... that's where I stand.. I think its shady, but I could just be 'crying'

I know most of you don't like John Kelly, or what have you. I have no issue with the guy. However, I would like people's input on the EoG $5k NBA contest. Basically its 100 plays, most units won wins. Some people made plays first 1-2 months, others the last month. It ran I think Dec - Feb. There's been real issues with how to do lines, settled on Bookmaker lines at time of post, no stale. Well, you can make plays private the last 2 weeks (I believe) and Vodoo (John's tout buddy, it seems) is in top 3 contention. Makes his plays private, Johnny waits till all the games go final and posts the Vodoo's 13 plays (10-3) clip. Then I challenge it by saying looks fishy. Then Vodoo chimes in as says he made all the plays 10 AM because didn't want to forget. Well the rule is plays made after 12:00 pm EST only COUNT. People have had to resubmit all contest. You think Kelly is pulling one over for his tout buddy or just has no clue how to run a contest? http://forums.eog.com/showthread.php/371184-EOG-s-5-000-NBA-Contest-featuring-a-125-payback-(Post-selections-here)/page59 Honest opinions, keep bias/hatred for JK out of it. I'm not too ticked off, but the shadiness is what irks me.

What if they didn't have a family. Hypothetical: A 27 year old male, addict for 7+ years with no girlfriend, mother or father, etc. breaks into your closest loved ones house and kills them in search of cocaine, crack, heroin, I don't care the drug. You're saying you wouldn't hold animosity, ill will towards the addict? You would say it isn't his fault because his brain receptors needed it. I can't tell if you're being serious.

I was hoping 'Cop' would check in, here. Boat is getting fired up early!!!

Same question to Yanks, if an addict killed a loved one of yours trying to get a fix... Would you say it's okay he can't conteol the disease? Answer these honestly and maybe you'll realize how ignorant both of you sound

Timely, if Chicago made all drugs legal and someone driving all doped up killed your closest loved one, woud you keep your opinion?

Anyone can pose something as an addiction that's the crazy part Eating, sleeping, sex, drugs, eating cushions, that's why its laughable

Eating is an addiction using Yanks theory. Can die from not doing it and brain tells you need more. So I guess we are all addicted to food.. Lol anyone can construe a definition to fit their needs. If anyone in my family was an addict and died from an OD, I wouldn't show up to their funeral. That's how serious I am. Hard to mourn that

I'm not taking a shot, I'm saying you're more worthy to speak on restaurants than a subject like this. If we made all drugs legal, you truly believe the driving under the influence rate wouldn't increase? Do you really think that, if so you are a fucking moron. Anything more accessible/legal will increase usage which in turn will increase people driving/functioning shot up addicts.

Banger, they can't help it's those teceptors in brain thinking they need that cushion or withdrawal. Haha