THE FACTSMAN

joey...........you know i only hang with the paesans from San Bruno and north beach. your a sharp guy. so on the Brock thing........a few guys met up at Arlington park Brock invited himself i said if you show up wearing your green shirt and have BBQ sauce all over your face for 9 races i would have given him a nickle or a dime..........he punked out and showed up now its rush hour i have to get to the Chicago Hilton downtown and was going to flag a cab or i was told the train is fast..........Brock said being the uber driver he is had to pass there anyway and would get me there fast..........this fuck with his short cuts had me stuck for 3 hours. but look..........i hate stiffs and i said my piece to him. but why does anyone get involved with any financial transaction with anyone with a sketchy past.............its like guys want to get stiffed just to join the i got stiffed club...............its crazy to me

sol i know it might sound crazy. but fazz is actually a normal dude to me the fazzer in here blows my mind.........its nothing like him good kid good family very respectful i might be the only guy in forumville to have met Brock Landers...........stuck in traffic with this prick for 3 hours. yeah he's a bit sketchy but respectful to me fish head........ very smart/sharp gambling mind. if i was in my 20's and needed a mentor it would be fishead meatman..... again in person 100% opposite then the forum guy you see to me he is Dave. the meat man is a character fazzer.........as i said very good kid/family man i'm very close to his boss at work i like fazz a lot and maybe a few dozen more over the years and all have been not like there screen names suggest

handicapping 101 fazz. BTW u and the Mrs. doing OK ? just got back from Vegas............Rio had some nice poker games leading up to the big event..........solid cash games all week but it was hot as a mother fucker. i'll be at caesars in a few weeks.........stop over we'll do lunch again

2 TEAM PARLAY SOAP +500 WATER +500 100 TO WIN 3,000 kingy we throw in your skid mark undies thats one helluva 3 teamer............lol

teddy it does seem like a solid 4 teamer as you guys know i dont post much put when i hear something...........i'll let you all know i can have fish pick up the tickets being he's local i just hope caesars dont get horned out they had some beefs in the past with oscar and golden boy promotions. worst scenario i'll fly out............for the weekend hang out at the palazzo suites with you guys and make bad decisions and buy kinger a hooker.................lol

fish............talked to my guy today and i thought he was nuts i said i need 4 ringside for the fight............he says "joe impossible tickets at ringside are going for 50 grand............nose bleeds scalpers getting $1,700 i said NO FUCKING WAY he was talking about the conner/floyd fight.............i thought no one was going to give 2 shits about that circus he said it will double if not triple the record for money earned....................i dont get it yet he only got 2 requests for the canelo fight ringside like 5k nose bleeds about a c- note so he is waiting on the distribution..........on how many caesars gets if any but he said i got the 1st 4 if they get them so we will have a good time............i'll keep u posted

joey rumor had me 2nd only to sbr for 10 straight years........numbers like buck fifty to a deuce per month but thats hard to confirm or deny did they really list top earning affiliates ? fucking douche bags never heard that.............just the rumors and the ball park figures a good affiliate would need 867 actives playing daily thats when guys make the money.............just sayin bags

kingy u panty sniffing prick. i might have some solid seats for the canelo-triple g fight if i get them............your my guest. i am a huge boxing fan and like watching the fights with a boxing guy instead of straight up degens. also if i get 4 i want to bring teddy with us.........me and ted had our battles over the years but i want to break bread with the big prick so u got my word if i go your joining me you and teddy last thing i got 6 figures on triple g.........so at the fight stay the fuck in your lane and none of that spanglish shit rooting for canelo..............lol oh yeah fish head will be the 4th..........fishy is my buddy...........slick dude but stay clean till then no panty stiffing no jerking off on webcams control yourself you sick bastard i'll call you in a couple of weeks

They play this game every year in this park. I mean how dont you have heavy security there ?

less then 2 miles from my house about a mile from my daughters school very scary stuff. they lifted the lock in at my daughters school so thats a relief. police responded in 4.5 minutes or this could have been a massacre prayers go out to the victims

fish..........they took in a ton of pred $ and they were well over 6 figures sided on the preds in the series. if your around the end of next week lets hook up for a root beer. you can bring my friend kinger but word on the street is the sick prick..........is snorting panties giving picks in his hash marked underwear and jerking off on his web cam. kinger your welcome to join us............so if you need a few days to detox from your sick acts of perversion............i'm giving you notice

rito............thats my point. there is no will no money its like my 5 year saying she is going to inherit money when me and her mom die..................it was a fantasy also the parent could have given a 1 time gift of equity to skate a tax situation but again if that was so................he or they would have the money......................he made the thing up. rito and you others your sharp guys you all nail him on every lie yet the biggest lie he can tell a million dollar lie some of you believe it. i saw the expression on his bbq sauce face.............HE LIED there is no money eyes dont lie and Barry ftr............you were never a candidate on being the guy i can see guys thinking about 5 guys..............but Barry isn't one of them.

IAG. no upside to Brock and or his wife staging it. Brock is about a end game or getting cash This does not make him money staging it. where does he benefit ? IT HURTS HIM he is not posting here no more that is what he loved. also when people mention it was someone in his past or a guy he might have scammed non sense He has listed every place he was going for a year.............New Orleans - Arlington park race track las vegas with the exact hotel where he was staying............everyone knows his last name so if someone was after him...............go to bally's ring eric b room EASY TO FIND The guy that did this hated and was consumed with the attention he was getting was burning up that he pulled off the bankruptcies and his mini vacations. and was in his head. someone that wanted to jam him up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thinking it would screw up a inheritance that never existed but lead everyone on that there was one. now how did i know there was no inheritance..................2 ways 1. i sat in a car with him in Chicago for 3 hours and asked questions that would prove he made it up about Alberta oil lie 1st thing i said was "you actually have the forum believing your inheriting a million dollars" he said nothing.............cracked a grin then started talking about some pizza place in Chicago so if it was anyone else...................they would have said no its true he said nothing. He never defended the accusation i made............just a smug shit eating grin 2nd thing i said made it a 100% lock............. i said i have a deal for you..............not saying i would have or wouldn't have done it but i wanted to hear the answer I SAID If you have 1 million coming and i can verify it through my attorneys and its with in 1 year i will cut you a check for $800.000 once my attorney gets confirmation That there are no liens or judgments on that money and its signed over to me and my lawyer all notarized by all the parties so basically.............i said if you need the money fast or want it fast................its the price of doing business and you can have it in a week. he declined also..............any sub prime lender or C-PAPER lender would have done this deal with the right documents...........making it technically a secured loan He said no 99 out of 100 degenerates would take a loss to have money in hand NOW as opposed to waiting...........college football starts thursday if he had money coming he would have taken a mini hit. to have it now getting 80 cents on the dollar and possibly 84 cents we would have done it in a second THERE NEVER WAS AND NEVER IS ANY MONEY COMING TO HIM. anyone sitting with me for 3 hours in a Hyundai in traffic in Chicago in 90 degree weather........... with no air conditioner I could have gotten him to admit he likes getting corn holed with a strap on.............if that was his thing

THEY = BALLY'S HOTEL JFC read it again jimmy nice and slow

fish he does not know............he asked me but i said its pointless him or anyone knowing cant put the toothpaste back in the tube..............my last words to him were stop gambling stay away from the forums get your family in place or your going to be in the gutter. i'm not betting on him but good or bad if someone tries to better themselves i wouldn't root against him. last thing for the forum there is no Alberta oil never was how did any of you believe that ? because he said it ? To answer IAG ...........Brock had nothing to gain for staging this his wife had no interest in discussing his gambling or the fictitious Alberta Oil like she knew nothing about any oil deal..............and knew Brock gambled but i dont think to what extent. she wanted verification that he did not screw around with any hookers and was shell shocked about the emails to relatives as i said the call to me was shocking but i think Brock figured i would never throw him under a bus him staging it............meant no more forums the forum was his life................thats what he lived for. to answer another question...............the money wired in...........came from a bank strong chance the wife knew...but not sure The credit card posted up at bally's...............most likely pre paid card...........or a loaded card from off shore funded which they only hit for a few hundred for incidentals as the room was comped. hey i love the conspiracy theory stuff its a good read but i figured some of the facts (no pun intended) might help you get some answers you guys are looking for. on that note.............i'm going to watch p.j mask with my daughter. #factslivesmatter

meaty and fish wouldn't do that brick. i'd bet my good eye on it.

the same people that post here all posted at eog i know half these guys ttp..............stop being a douche as far as Vegas goes.................he booked his ticket months in advance he went to enter that silly westgate scam contest he wanted to stay at Caesars palace i told him he wasn't a Caesars guy they would crush him if he didn't play like they expected......... for $400 a night he had 3 places he could have stayed................he chose bally's his call i made sure his room was ready and comped. so now what............did i make him fly to vegans and bet the cubs that Sunday night did i make him eat those nasty tacos and go to the gamblers book store. lmao sucked a % of his loss.................yeah now i can pay my cable bill because Brock is one of the few people that lose money in Vegas....................grow the fuck up

come on guys i expected you would get the guy in 5 minutes or less read the letter a few times.............the guy was sloppy look at some key WORDS key things that are in that letter and it will take you right to your man. but in the end its history. Brock is not going to do shit about it. nor should he. even when one of you guys put the pieces together then what................. your not going to bang on the guy that got Brock jammed up shit some might send him a gift card. no upside to get someone this fucking consumed to be on your shit list. so if anyone has something to gain by calling the prick out...........do it like i said its not hard to figure out. me..............i'll watch from the sidelines................keeping my mouth shut

i see boat getting hammered in this thread.....................i'm not sure why or i have not been here long enough to know the history. but it brings me back to whats the end game ? Its not like boat was getting paid to have brock post here true or false. MO u know i love you man...........you stayed at my house and are welcome anytime my guess here is the call to me was going to lead to a call to boat which it did the only thing i read boat say was he was disguised by someone posting this on facebook and so was i............i mean busting balls is one thing but if that story is true its a rat move. whatever you guys were going back and forth with on other posters i dont know those guys i found this place for the 1st time 6 weeks ago so i'm a virgin here................on that note you mother fuckers are funny fishead................2 weeks in vegas with the wife get billsfan and lets do dinner and play v.p

done...............now try and behave your a fucking usher at church for Christ sakes.

pat.............until reading this that never crossed my mind. now you have me thinking. i never spoke with the his wife ever.............and why would i be the guy to call ? it seems strange but what would be the end game for either of them ? its not like they were putting the bite on me for cash or was that the next play ? my best guess is Brock had me on the phone with her because even if he did bang a whore (which i doubt he did) i wouldn't give him or anyone up. but the videos and the forum she had to know more then she told me. but i am back to WHY and more then that WHY ME one last thing that i am curious about.................i dont know anything about facebook is there any proof that the email i got and kinger got was actually sent to family members ? i dont know how facebook works. maybe i'm just over thinking this with all these posts. i need a Quaalude...........lol

dave i hate calling in favors.............but this one i have too. for the record any person i ever met in the forums that ask me about you i say meaty is a good guy..........I met you i can confirm that to be true. i know v.d for over 15 years.............i know you 2 have had your battles but calling him a pedo is just wrong. and its not true and we all know it. if someone attacked you this way..............and i said nothing what kind of friend would i be ? I want this to stop either pull this thread down.............or change it by calling him or accusing him of something else. dont call a guy a pedophile or speculate on a guy you never met. yes v.d has busted your balls as well...............but when you asked me to tell him to lay off you he did. in all the times we met.............if you think i have a right to call in this favor based on the way i treated you then you will end this now. if not.............then i will know where we stand. so you dont think its a 1 way street.............i will tell vd to stay clear of you and you do the same. make the right call here Dave i'll see you in 2 weeks thanks

TTP..........she was pissed about the hooker allegation. i told her...........as a wife and a mother to be on guard i didn't go on facebook and tell her in-laws................brock is a asshole he made his bed your making the guy doing the facebook thing right ? thats tragic i am retiring from this thread

OK HERE IS THE REAL STORY............i was just going to keep it to myself but after 31 pages of reading this i felt you guys should know the truth. Oddly enough i was the 1st person Brock sent that face book letter too...............which followed with a phone call AGAIN TO MY SURPRISE. Brocks wife got on the phone and asked me some questions 1st one is why would someone send that letter to her family,friends and so on...............i had no answer The idea that deb reads these forums are not true...........she was fucking shocked at the content. her concern was did her husband pay for a prostitute ? NOTHING TO DO WITH GAMBLING I said "i'm going to talk and your going to listen and then i am going to hang up" 1.your husband has a gambling problem a bad one............GET HIM HELP 2. keep him off the forums and the message boards. if you cant do that you have zero shot to save your marriage i said Brock did not pay money for a prostitute..........a sick degenerate wouldn't waste any amount of money that dips in his gambling fund...............for that he is not guilty but i told her Brock is a top shelf liar and when you gamble at his level............with no regard of anyone else's feelings but your own its a problem. her history on forums............she rarely reads anything here at tgf . Brock would show her hand picked posts.............but had no idea how severe the bashing of her and there son was. she knew of his gambling but not to the extreme that it was.............my best guess is many of the posters/lurkers are in the same boat with there spouses................but Brock took it to another stratosphere. i closed the conversation by telling deb if he fucks up broom his ass out. Brock got back on the phone..............i told him he put me in a awkward situation but if he wants to turn his life around STOP THE GAMBLING RIGHT NOW I told him he should dedicate his time to his son and stop trying to be something he can never be. so no kinger didn't create this when i finished my conversation with both of them he contacted boat to ban himself as i instructed him too do. after that i was just reading what you guys were speculating. my part in this is over..............not sure WHY i was the 1st call you guys have a nice forum here with good people i would bury this topic and start concentrating on some football talk and busting balls like you guys do. last thing.............the blame here goes 100% to Brock for getting in this jam. he chose to put his business on the street.............he deserves what he gets if he dont clean up and the guy who sent that letter is the biggest RAT FUCK IN THE WORLD you just dont cross that line. the rest of it you guys sort out

kingy.............stop your my papi I wanted to hang out and talk boxing-taco's landscaping - and that other Mexican stuff. truth is i'm a little hurt.............other then cleaning my pool you owe me a apology plus the room i offered you odds are -700 you would have 9 others in the room. i'm in Vegas in 2 weeks drop by