Deemer Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Hedge, If true, you got fucked. BBB seems to think you're lying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogFries Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 AB likely took a huge hit from all this as well and they are not as financially stable as they once were. There banking page now quotes the same timesframes as 1vice for payouts as well as lower amounts for p2p payouts. Proceed with caution.At all books P2P payouts are very limited was only able to get 300 @ Heritage last week... Got a Dime from AB a week via $$$ orders got under 4 days... I have no money @ 1 vice but atleast people are getting paid something... Griff could have just closed shop and pulled a BetIsland which would have been turrible.. If somebody agreed to take an X amount I can't see why they are complaining? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 At all books P2P payouts are very limited was only able to get 300 @ Heritage last week... Got a Dime from AB a week via $$$ orders got under 4 days...Most posters have no concept of the expense and difficulty books have moving $. yea it's easy for a poster to walk down to CVS and send a MG/WU.................not quite that simple for a book, and much more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogFries Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 B3 will.all the fans you got here you should branch out and just have write ups on offshore books maybe start a rating system of your own. You probably will get enough views to make some extra cash instead of round robins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetopay Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Boat you are playing alot right now with all those round robins? You depositing at Vice soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 B3 will.all the fans you got here you should branch out and just have write ups on offshore books maybe start a rating system of your own. You probably will get enough views to make some extra cash instead of round robins...couldn't trust the info given to evaluate the financial status shit, Citi bank was gonna fold and no one saw that coming..............how the hell a no body like me be able to tell if a book is solid. I will say the 5dimes thing going on is of GREAT concern to me. Great....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Boat you are playing alot right now with all those round robins? You depositing at Vice soon? 1vice doesn't want me, or I would deposit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted March 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 1vice doesn't want me, or I would depositThen thank your lucky stars they don't want you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Most posters have no concept of the expense and difficulty books have moving $. yea it's easy for a poster to walk down to CVS and send a MG/WU.................not quite that simple for a book, and much more expensive. not easy for me since i got banned from both because books gave me a bad name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 they gave you a bad name because moving $ is very hard made my point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangover Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 MM u sure it was a bad name or someone finally realized John Smith in Wisconsin sending/receiving to CR is a bit odd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyDevil Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 not easy for me since i got banned from both because books gave me a bad nameUse yourMiddle name . End ofStory . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timetopay Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 I use Brocks sons name Works everytime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 Use yourMiddle name . End ofStory . tried that with wu, also tried mrs milwaukee with work address, neither worked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 8, 2016 Report Share Posted March 8, 2016 soggy bottom boys are fun to listen to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 What is so hard to figure out? You pay off everyone on a payment plan even if it is $500 per month and takes two years. You cannot stiff Hedge on contest winnings and then turn around and have another contest and give that person winnings, You cannot do rollovers with 1Vice still up and running. Has any book in history ever got bailed and stayed in business with the same ownership? There cannot be any book other than RDG dumb enough to sign up for that at minority ownership no less and agree to pay out the whole book while hoping people will deposit to a bust book which had a bad reputation to begin with And now that book is really looking for the dumbest of the dumb to deposit and supposedly not going to find them on the forums? Good luck with that strategy. I don't think anybody really wants to see 1Vice go under or not give credit to RDG for providing assistance. But they have to do it the right way and not make off with some of the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERBtheGREAT Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 What constitutes a book labeling someone as "sharp" and cutting them off? Are they just betting line moves that these bonus books are slow to move on? Hedge, can't you bet your plays for higher limits at better books, or are bonus books just much easier to beat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogFries Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 I am just glad I did not have much $$$ in 1 vice kept it small just enough to bet and get some bonuses.. I do like Americas Bookie I feel safe to keep 1500- 2500 there just bet 125- 200 a game... Same with Mania and Phoenix.. I just keep more in Heritage and You Wager and Bookmaker plus they allow bigger payouts... I think Griff is trying to do the right thing but anybody who runs a promo giving Double your money on winnings really should not be in charge of running a book.. Maybe a Sales Rep might be best for Griff... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Always call heads. It seems like you want 1v to pay cutrent iwed debt, but dont want them to mkt their product in a fashion required to obtain the funds to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 What is so hard to figure out? You pay off everyone on a payment plan even if it is $500 per month and takes two years. .Exactly, whether hedge or wvu or anyone else made a deal or was forced to take 40c on the dollar, its not too late to correct that and make good on every penny owed...even if it takes years and years. While this is all going on, how can they expect anyone to deposit without the fear of the same thing happening to them...winning a few bucks and having the book take 60% of it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 It would have given players alot more confidence if they paid Hedge a lump sum of 40% of his balance and paid the rest IN FULL on a plan. Hedge really had no choice but to accept the one time $5k payment and let Griff steal the remaining $7k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Always call heads. It seems like you want 1v to pay cutrent iwed debt, but dont want them to mkt their product in a fashion required to obtain the funds to do soNo, I want them to do the only thing they can do and stay in business. Say we have joined RDG and have their backing and will be paying out everyone we owe in full with no conditions on a timetable which is possible for us to do so. We appreciate your patience and continued business. For those that we have chosen not to do business with, we are providing a payment plan which will have you paid in full within X timeframe. Now about that March Madness deposit ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hangover Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 Has anyone aware of the debacle actually deposited at 1V since the collapse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrogFries Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 This reminds me of when K Mart went bankrupt and Sears bought them out my buddy bought alot of K Mart stock was worth nothing since K Mart went under the Sears brand... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted March 9, 2016 Report Share Posted March 9, 2016 This reminds me of when K Mart went bankrupt and Sears bought them out my buddy bought alot of K Mart stock was worth nothing since K Mart went under the Sears brand...Yes, the only difference is that KMart went bankrupt. This is Warren Buffet putting money into Goldman Sachs. KMart shareholders got wiped out. Griff shares are still trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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