FISHHEAD Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 In theory, an advantage player is not paid off by the casino, they're paid and make their livlihood through the hundreds of losers in the casino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 .....of course the giveaways, promos, and the freebies are a way to entice John Q. Public That's a given This a good thing for the AP player, as he or she is beating the casino straight up with smart play and then receiving all the extras as a bonus. bingo if promos weren't a good idea for the casino (as a whole) then they wouldn't do them, and there would be no advantage for an advantage gambler overly simplistic example - you can play a 80% game or a 99.4% game and get the same kickback, if the kickback is 2% and the casino thinks it will be 50-50 action then they make $$$ and anyone playing the 99.4% game makes $$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 As you know MM, one could explain say a play worth $40-50 an hour in detail to 100 people, only 4-5 would do it, and perhaps only one correctly out of that 4-5............most of the other 95 would simply be skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Another difference is that when I make a post pointing out the negative of something like a casino or sportsbook promo I'm targeting the masses, the majority. For most people the "deal" will make them poorer, not richer. There may be exceptions but generally speaking most people aren't missing out on something great by not participating in a promo offer. They are better off without it. Its why I used the lottery analogy earlier. The lottery can't be beaten but there are dozens of powerball jackpot winners that would say otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Correct, a higher percentage of people lose more on a casino promo than those that profit from it...... Again, this is why promos exist and actually seem to be getting better the last ten years........and why AP's embrace them and will continue to make money from them, in some cases, boatloads, pun intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Just drawings alone here in Sin City provide a multitude of +EV for the AP........a wide range of career AP's have won vehicles over the years in drawings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Correct, a higher percentage of people lose more on a casino promo than those that profit from it......Right so informing the forum of some great offer and advising it should be taken advantage of may be good for 1 or 2 guys its actually a disservice to most. Most posters are not AP's. Bobby FK is not an advantage gambler but wants everyone to believe he is. He gets a free hamburger once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted May 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Right so informing the forum of some great offer and advising it should be taken advantage of may be good for 1 or 2 guys its actually a disservice to most. Most posters are not AP's. Bobby FK is not an advantage gambler but wants everyone to believe he is. how can free bingo be a disservice to most? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 how can free bingo be a disservice to most?Jesus Christ Mike think about it. How can free booze for an hour be a service to an alcoholic trying to quit drinking? Gamblers lose, casinos win more the longer a gambler plays. Playing bingo for free is a fabulous idea, they should offer it 24/7 365 days a year. If the only people that ever showed up only played for free and then fucked off the promo would stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Most posters don't bother, those that do are profiting, as many, if not most times, tell them precisely how to attack them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Most posters don't botherAs they shouldn't. You guys keep talking about these things like everyone can or wants to do them.The info you supply has the potential to benefit a couple of people, infrequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 In some ways, that's a beautiful thing.....but I'm glad a few posters have profited over the years with a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Lots of TERRIIC plays gone by the wayside, many in existence, many more to come. Buckle up Plommer!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 As they shouldn't. You guys keep talking about these things like everyone can or wants to do them.The info you supply has the potential to benefit a couple of people, infrequently. it has the potential to benefit a lot more than a couple of people it's not my fault if people are too closed-minded or stupid to take advantage of what i post... i'd rather throw something helpful and intelligent out in cyberspace than be negative. who knows, 3 years from now someone might find it and make some money off of something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 MM, exactly.........there are also a fair share of lurkers on this site that at times takes advantage of things posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 yeah i forgot about heritage racebook's silly limits, $50 on a lot of races but don't they crank those up on the big races? 50 dollars on small tracks 200 WPS at pimlico except for preakness day probably be like 2k tomorrow pimlico at heritage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akillies Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Place all your Preakness Stakes wagers on Saturday May 21st using our Horses Betting Platform and collect a 10% Rebate!Use your computer, smartphone, or tablet to place your bets and receive 10% rebate on your net losses. All races placed on the May 21st race card at Pimlico Race Course are eligible for the rebate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted May 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 50 dollars on small tracks 200 WPS at pimlico except for preakness day probably be like 2k tomorrow pimlico at heritage that's what i thought... for the kentucky derby the limits were up there which is why i'm confused at the post that said they would have low limits on nyquist to show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 exact same limits as for the derby 2k wps 500 for all exotics only doubles and p3s for horizontals, nothing longer than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAKEPEAVY21 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 Most posters don't bother, those that do are profiting, as many, if not most times, tell them precisely how to attack them.give us a couple of nice promos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAKEPEAVY21 Posted May 21, 2016 Report Share Posted May 21, 2016 just found this at gtbets: Will Nyquist show in the Preakness Will Nyquist run 3rd or better - Must start 05/21/2016 14:59 Yes (-400) No (300) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 just found this at gtbets: Will Nyquist show in the PreaknessWill Nyquist run 3rd or better - Must start 05/21/201614:59 Yes (-400) No (300) holy shnike that's unreal, 2.50 show ticket! and you could've gotten a huge scalp out of it i was happy with the -750 at bovada, shoved all in getting 2.27 and knowing if it lost i could get another 50% bonus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAKEPEAVY21 Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 holy shnike that's unreal, 2.50 show ticket! and you could've gotten a huge scalp out of it i was happy with the -750 at bovada, shoved all in getting 2.27 and knowing if it lost i could get another 50% bonusI posted it for your benefit another winner by the wayside for MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted May 22, 2016 Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 lol you guys. $2.20 to show in an 11 horse field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted May 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2016 lol you guys. $2.20 to show in an 11 horse field. more than half of those horses were garbage nyquist ran about as poorly as possible, had to stop on the rail and bounce outside, and still got 3rd by a comfy margin, lost photo for 2nd out of 100 races that is about the worst nyquist was gonna run and still no sweat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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