Hedge Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Just saw this post at SBR: "I am having issues being paid out. I deal with Griffin and Tommy, cleared my bonus, requested a payout and Tommy, who I mainly deal with now is giving me the run around. I have won a ton of money from their site, requested 5 figure payouts, and haven't seen a dime. They are now limiting my action now that I have been winning. When I was losing initially, they would respond immediately. Now, can't get a hold of them at all.I didn't want to have to post this on here, but I cannot hold off any longer. I was supposed to be paid out over 14 days ago and haven't received anything. Thoughts on how to be paid anyone? Their customer service on Topgunsports.eu doesn't even pick up the phone. Seems super shady now. (BTW, this is the portal they moved me over to since I was such a VIP)... great VIP treatment. I would refer everyone to their site if they paid out, but unfortunately, have to go the opposite route for now." Reply With Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 My guess and its site not under an umbrella. They are not using ab pph. My guess....... ab had no knowledge of this. That's 100 percent a guess. I have reached out to multiple parties with pertanent questions. I have gotten a response as of yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Speak to type sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Speak to type sucks To be fair the software can't be expected to be very accurate when the person speaking talks like he has a mouth full of marbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Good point But hurrful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 My guess and its site not under an umbrella. They are not using ab pph. My guess....... ab had no knowledge of this. That's 100 percent a guess. I have reached out to multiple parties with pertanent questions. I have gotten a response as of yetIf I read the post correctly, 1V moved him over to this portal as a "VIP". So now they can screw over on payment because it's now a 3rd party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 If I read the post correctly, 1V moved him over to this portal as a "VIP". So now they can screw over on payment because it's now a 3rd party? Clever, if that is in fact what they did. I don't mean that in a good way. Should really wait and see how this plays out but JFC Griff appears to love digging himself out of a hole. Must be a rush or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I know nothing. Conjecture on my part. Trying to connect dots with large gaps between them. I hope to know soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I know nothing. Conjecture on my part. Trying to connect dots with large gaps between them. I hope to know soon. Looking forward to the facts coming out too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKolzig Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 how many posts does this guy at sbr have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casperwaits Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I've never heard of topgunsports.eu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy does it Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 They have been known to give people the run around. They will pay I have no doubt about that but they will try to buy themselves more time and make you ask multiple times. As far as I know they paid everyone from the NBA fiasco even if it was delayed, however they are much quicker to cutc the cord on players and will almost limit Instantly if you show you have a clue and request a payout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy does it Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Also forgot to mention Tommy is a jackass. He never answers any questions properly and considering the poster was dealing with him I'm not surprised he got the run around, tommy is definitely not qualified to run a book and only reason griffin lets him stick around is because he has money. With all that being said always try to deal with griffin directly and avoid that idiot Tommy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viejo Dinosaur Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 As I have said before, you have to avoid these third tier books who offer the world to get you to sign up....Big Daddy always gave me shit about bashing Vice....because of the success of the top books in offshore, there are those individuals who think it is easy to book and take wagers....I have seen too many failures to know what works and what doesn't.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I've never heard of topgunsports.euExactly, and that's the point. 1 Vice moves its big winners, like this guy with a 5 figure balance, over to their obscure VIP site Topgunssports. That way they can distance themselves from the slow pay/ no pay complaints from clients owed larger amounts. Just another dirty tactic used by Stiffin' Griffin and Robbin' Robbie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyTyler Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 poster Sam Odom says Griffin great guy and 1Vice a great out to have so you must be mistaken here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Exactly, and that's the point. 1 Vice moves its big winners, like this guy with a 5 figure balance, over to their obscure VIP site Topgunssports. That way they can distance themselves from the slow pay/ no pay complaints from clients owed larger amounts. Just another dirty tactic used by Stiffin' Griffin and Robbin' Robbie. Ok. not part of Ab or 1V Separate package managed by Tommy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I understand why you're being told this, but it's not that hard to connect the dots to Griffin and 1Vice. The guy posted that he dealt with both Griffin and Tommy. He posted his complaint in a 1-Vice thread, and SBR promised to get back to him after 1-Vice responds. Sounds to me like 1V is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 As I have said before, you have to avoid these third tier books who offer the world to get you to sign up....Big Daddy always gave me shit about bashing Vice....because of the success of the top books in offshore, there are those individuals who think it is easy to book and take wagers....I have seen too many failures to know what works and what doesn't.... IS HRwager an avoid at all cost book or are they exempt because George is a fantasy Non heterosexual person ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I understand why you're being told this, but it's not that hard to connect the dots to Griffin and 1Vice. The guy posted that he dealt with both Griffin and Tommy. He posted his complaint in a 1-Vice thread, and SBR promised to get back to him after 1-Vice responds. Sounds to me like 1Vis involved.Oh I think 1 Vice is involved 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Poster seemed kind of clueless. 1Vice will definitely do you over if they can get away with it and had this guy pegged. Suspect the game is up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 They ran this Top Gun scam on him to butter him up. Wouldn't be at all surprised if they dropped the ball by forgetting they had the guy over there and were not getting his communication. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy does it Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 guy signed up at 1vice and then was moved on to another sportsbook on a so called "vip" package. How is 1vice not involved the poster originally signed up with them and Tommy moved the player over not to tarnish the name of 1vice during the slowpay/nopay period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Wow, just wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 I think we can all agree 1V isn't safe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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