Always Call Heads Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 It is not common at all for people to have their own players and move them from shop to shop as they change employers. quite often players are not loyal to the shop but to the agent the have dealt with, just as some people state side are with Drs or Florist or a plumber. You don't do bizz with the sign on the front door you do bizz with the person behind the counter.True. But why was this guy calling Griffin. Then he says I mostly deal with Tommy"now" and now I can't get either one. Regardless, you have to believe this guy was not 1Vice but just a guy Tommy had that Griffin was accommodating via PPH. People always laughed at 1Vice's high net worth division. Do you really see Griffin having a high net worth guy and letting Tommy keep all the money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 True. But why was this guy calling Griffin. Then he says I mostly deal with Tommy"now" and now I can't get either one. Regardless, you have to believe this guy was not 1Vice but just a guy Tommy had that Griffin was accommodating via PPH. People always laughed at 1Vice's high net worth division. Do you really see Griffin having a high net worth guy and letting Tommy keep all the money?because as I stated many many post ago tommy and griff when they became partners each agreed to assist each others players. so they did when tommy left he took his with him so of course they guy dealt with both for a period of time. I am the messenger nothing more. but have gotten the story from more than 1 and it could be a lie..............hell I have been lied to before. Will be again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Yeah. I can see he was maybe Tommy's guy. But not a 1Vice customer? No way. It was all for one and one for all. He was 1Vice. Then they went bust and Griffin said, you take him. This was apparently a pretty recent break. It's the same story about not assuming accounts. They are going to try to pull it on this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted June 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Got to believe Robbin' Robbie has a roll in this mess. He has a long rap sheet of theft and deception going back over a decade. Looks like history repeating with similarities to his earlier scams: SBR Bill Dozer reports:10.11.2005 SBRforum poster AK reports that Bet33 (SBR rating F) is a new venture from known sportsbook stiff, Robbie Mcphail. SBR has confirmed this to be true. Robbie, formerly the owner of ApexSportsbook (SBR rating F-), is introducing himself as the General Manager of Bet33 and is now using the name Zach. Players should steer clear of any sportsbook that is using the services of this scam artist. SBR Bill Dozer reports08.12.2005 BetOnline (SBR rating D+) using stiff bookmaker Robbie Mcphail and old Apex Sportsbook customer list to solicit new players. Multiple players have complained that Robbie is again dialing for deposits; this time, on behalf of the relatively unknown BetOnline.com. The operation is about one year old and is starting its first marketing campaign. Players should be weary of a sportsbook that chooses to use an individual with a soiled reputation to launch its brand. SBR Bill Dozer reports:02.18.2005 SBR upgrades PlatinumSportsbets from D- to D after most recent conversation with ownership. PSB states that they have rid themselves of stiff ex-bookmakers, Paul and Robbie M of the Apex scam, and have yet to be the subject of a complaint. SBR has expressed concern about PlatinumSportsbets’ business model and their ability to succeed offering discount lines priced at -105 along with deposit bonuses. PSB is new to the post-up business, yet is aggressively marketing to sharp players via betting forums and plans to join the DonBest premium line service. PSB has experience in the credit business and utilized service provider, Datawager. SBR Bill Dozer reports:02.15.2005 Robbie McPhail, formerly of Apex (SBR rating F-) recruiting players to join his latest sportsbook, 2betBFL (not rated). 2betBFL functions as a credit operation but Robbie is said to be contacting his former players soliciting post-up deposits. All players should be aware that Robbie still owes many players from the failed Apex. Robbie McPhail,12.11.2004 who stiffed players as the owner of the defunct Apex Sportsbook, is using the Apex website to promote his sportsbook affiliates. ApexSportsbook.com features ads for Pinnacle Sports, Hollywood107, Sportingbet, SBGglobal, Cybersportsbook and Mybookie. SBR is asking these sportsbooks to withhold any commission payment to Robbie or to work out an arrangement where the stiffed players can begin to receive payment. SBR will be able to provide a list of players owed. Robbie’s new sportsbook, PlatinumSportsbets (SBR rating F) is also promoted on this site as well as his other sites which include Askthebookie.com. SBR Bill Dozer reports:09.06.2004 It is confirmed that ownership of the defunct Apex Sportsbook is managing Platinum SportBets (SBR rating F+). The main figure in the Apex disaster, Robbie McPhail, is introducing himself as Platinum SB’s customer service manager. SBR cautions players of this new site, www.4platinumsportsbook.com, and its excessive promotional offers. SBR Bill Dozer reports: PlatinumSB (SBR rating D-)06.29.2004 employs former owners of now defunct Apex Sportsbook to run internet marketing department. PlatinumSB.com is planning to open to all post up players in mid July dealing -105 lines. They vow to pay all players who were granted an Apex bailout but only after 30 day hold and 3x roll over. SBR expresses concern over post up inexperience and the employment of Apex stiffs. SBR Bill Dozer reports:06.23.2004 APEX Sportsbook (SBR rating F-) closing its doors. Robbie, the owner, is moving “square" players to PlatinumSB.com where he has a commission loss sheet. He is also applying a rollover to their funds. Robbie also states that he has access to player funds but is using it for other sportsbook marketing endeavors. Larger players will likely not see their funds past any bailout possibilities. Robbie calls this "a career choice" and admits he would not be doing this if players could physically reach him. SBR Bill Dozer reports:06.23.2004 Apex Sportsbook (SBR rating F-) fails to make 2nd payments on installment plans. Amounts past due range from $250 to $400. SBR mail bag:06.11.2004 Player reports BetOnSports (SBR rating D+) that he is being slow-paid for $750, SportsInteraction (SBR rating D-) asking player to send in his Western Union deposit receipt from January 2003, before they will process his payout. Complaints from Gold Palace (SBR rating F-) Internet1x2 (SBR rating F) Apex (SBR rating F+) and BetCSI (SBR rating D-) also continue to pour in. SBR Bill Dozer reports:06.08.2004 Players request that SBR monitor Apex Sportsbook (SBR rating F+) payment plan. SBR contacts Apex who agreed to provide disclosure of balances and payment plans to SBR for all players that request that SBR monitor payment plan. If you are owed money by Apex and would like SBR to monitor your payout plan write to Bill Dozer at [email protected]. SBR rates Apex Sportsbook:06.04.2004 - Robbie from Apex Sportsbook (SBR Rating F+) has presented documentation with the figures of his total turnover and percentages of hold. SBR believes this is a book that has been encouraging sharp action as of late and it seems obvious they do not have the ability to handle this type of action. The latest marketing moves are aimed to amend this severe leak of revenue. As of today, Robbie form Apex has stated his operation owes $100,000 to a group of 20-25 sharp players. He has further stated that all these outstanding balances will be paid out in 2 weeks. SBR to re-evaluate Apex situation in 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 The way this guy wrote his message, he also seems to barely know who Tommy is, just part of "their site." This guy does not write at all like a guy that has been with Tommy a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted June 21, 2016 Report Share Posted June 21, 2016 Also the guy got moved. He was not taken with. BTW, this is the portal they moved me over to since I was such a VIP)... great VIP treatment. \ How many Tommy guys are going to use the word "portal." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted June 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2016 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 bump Nobody will bite the hand that feeds. Unless they are retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Nobody will bite the hand that feeds. Unless they are retarded.Didn't big daddy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blow Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 "Player reports BetOnSports (SBR rating D+) that he is being slow-paid for $750, SportsInteraction (SBR rating D-) asking player to send in his Western Union deposit receipt from January 2003, before they will process his payout" Now that's just nuts. Still did not a F rating from SRB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 "Player reports BetOnSports (SBR rating D+) that he is being slow-paid for $750, SportsInteraction (SBR rating D-) asking player to send in his Western Union deposit receipt from January 2003, before they will process his payout" Now that's just nuts. Still did not a F rating from SRB. SIA ended up A and a an SBR advertiser before they quit USA There are some stories on them you wouldn't fking believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted June 23, 2016 Report Share Posted June 23, 2016 Didn't big daddy? Hes retarded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Hustle Posted August 2, 2016 Report Share Posted August 2, 2016 got another payout. 1vice and griffin are top notch. on a sad note they're no longer my pal. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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