Inkwell77 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Seriously So there were two GMO bills in this past election and both were defeated (In Oregon and Colorado, although Oregon's may go to a recount) People really don't want to know what they are eating? Look at this chart and tell me which side you would rather be on http://www.cornucopia.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/meas92-prop105.1001.1500px.jpg Just absolutely mind boggling to me. I do understand the opinion that companies shouldn't necessarily be required to put packaging etc, but packaging and ingredients and health facts are already required so the point is moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 GMO talk all hogwash, ask most any Iowa farmer(largest corn producers in the world). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 What is hogwash? The companies/products that use genetically modified organisms would required to state that on the packaging. Not sure what is hogwash about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 one of the main GMO propaganda artists is in some major trouble for all his lies, wife beating, etc http://www.naturalnews.com/047685_Jon_Entine_violence_against_women_hate_speech.html to answer your question, what's wrong with this country is 99% of the population has given up critical thought, and bows down and worships whatever daily lies are on the tv. there's no money in a healthy, happy population so everything counter to that is promoted... buy beer and coke! get vaccines! nothing wrong with fluoride or gmo food! close your minds and open your wallets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 What is hogwash? The companies/products that use genetically modified organisms would required to state that on the packaging. Not sure what is hogwash about that. They should, but why?? It has no health concerns to humans, brushing ones teeth with a toothpaste such as Colgate is 10x more detrimental to ones overall health.......not to mention women using chemical induced cosmetics. GMO's a non-human health factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 A girl last week told me she gave up Bud Light because of the GMO grains to produce it.......OMG, LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 They should, but why?? It has no health concerns to humans, brushing ones teeth with a toothpaste such as Colgate is 10x more detrimental to ones overall health.......not to mention women using chemical induced cosmetics. GMO's a non-human health factor. agree with this for the most part people tend to pick the wrong fights, roundup on "organic" food is probably much more detrimental than eating gmo (in my uneducated opinion)... and even if you buy strictly organic food, it is fertilized with chicken shit, and the chickens weren't living an organic lifestyle... people can get paralysis by analysis and end up living out of fear, just take simple steps (like i did eliminating meat and trying to exercise more) that make you happier and healthier! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 One thing that I've been against for over 30 years before it became mainstream how bad they are for you is Trans-Fats...........even though very occasionally still eat the crap. One should be 1000x more concerned with consuming trans-fats than GmO's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 They should, but why?? It has no health concerns to humans, brushing ones teeth with a toothpaste such as Colgate is 10x more detrimental to ones overall health.......not to mention women using chemical induced cosmetics. GMO's a non-human health factor. Someone posted this in another article related to GE and GMOs and it sums up my thoughts well: Im not against GE. I actually find it fascinating. However, when big corps take shady back door deals and government influence to put these products into our food supply without adequate, long term, completely transparent testing then I take issue. If GMOs are 'safe,' as the big-ag companies claim they are, then why not just label them? Sugar, flour, sodium, citric acid and sulfates are all considered safe, but are required by law to be listed. (and we are seeing now those ingredients can cause harm). If I were making a food that I claimed could feed the world and solve all our food supply problems I would have no problem with it being labeled. I would be loud and proud to have my inventions known to the world. But these companies do not, they are trying way to hard to keep this from happening. Meanwhile, over 50 countries all over the world either ban or require labeling of GMO ingredients. So it seems our government is working against the will of the people on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 The government works against the will of the people on lots of things, maybe the majority of things......I hear what you're saying INK, agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 A girl last week told me she gave up Bud Light because of the GMO grains to produce it.......OMG' date=' LOL[/quote'] I'm all for having this lady know if she is or is not consuming GMO's with her Bud Light.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 there's no money in a healthy, happy population so everything counter to that is promoted... There is still money, but the percentages would shrink instead of increase as overconsumption would decrease and that is not what they want..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 We need IW and MM on the USDA payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 It's funny reading these various big articles around the web and wondering how many of the comments are posted by paid representatives of the companies the article is for/against. I love reading the comments as they can enhance learning and is many times more thought provoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 It's funny reading these various big articles around the web and wondering how many of the comments are posted by paid representatives of the companies the article is for/against. I love reading the comments as they can enhance learning and is many times more thought provoking. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 It's funny reading these various big articles around the web and wondering how many of the comments are posted by paid representatives of the companies the article is for/against. I love reading the comments as they can enhance learning and is many times more thought provoking. absolutely, the scumbag jon entine i posted about, one of his main jobs was to lie on internet comments under multiple handles and relentlessly bash anyone that disagreed. that all came out in his divorce agreement. reminds me of some former forum sportsbooks and another guy by the name of "jon"! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcarter Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 anyone that thinks GMO's are good for us are just kidding themselves. Why are so many countries banning them? You can always look to nature to tell you the story. \ If people want to eat poison then you should be able to. Just label it so that some of us who don't want to eat poison caan at least make that choice. Remember also, The FDA is the largest drug dealer in the world. Having Americans rely on them for pills for life is good business. Get you sick, invent a pill to make it better = $$$$$$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcarter Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 if you are a doubter, this will change your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rito Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 This is what's wrong. Half the country is morbidly obese, and their bigger concern is a illness that has not killed anyone in the USA and probably wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Yup. Most people are sheep. The problem these days with so much info at your finger tips, figuring what side is spewing less disinformation especially on highly contested things like this that have huge dollars at stakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Ebola is another Sars, h1n1, etc whoreshit scare tactics. I had people telling me at work to start driving to the office which would effectively double my daily commute time bc of the chance someone is carrying Ebola. They were dead serious and got offended when I fell on the floor laughing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Ebola is another Sars, h1n1, etc whoreshit scare tactics. I had people telling me at work to start driving to the office which would effectively double my daily commute time bc of the chance someone is carrying Ebola. They were dead serious and got offended when I fell on the floor laughing most people believe everything the government/tv tell them, even when you can prove to them that they've lied about 100 major things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickadee Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 It's difficult to sort through the mess of information. Doubly so when people are paid to spread misinformation for whatever party it serves. Nobody still knows why colony collapse occurs in bee populations but there's lots of speculation that it's from Neurotoxin pesticides or harmful GMO proteins in crops. I have no idea if the claims are true or not. Nobody else does either for that matter. I've noticed that chipmunks in my area have gone instinct. 10 or so years ago they were numerous because I live in a forested area but a park run by my government sprayed trees to save them from wood eating beetles and it killed them all off because the acorns chipmunks subsisted on were contaminated by the pesticides. I'm sure that the same thing happens elsewhere for many different reasons as well. Humans have too short a timeline for a species to consider cause and effect. Personally all I know is that corn tastes significantly different than it did when I was growing up. The hulls of commercial corn kernals are thicker containing less water and it tastes much sweeter. Not a combination I particularly enjoy. Maybe some of it can be attributed to the degradation of my tastebuds as I age but every so often when i'm eating with other people I ask them if they've noticed the tastes of various foods changing in the past 20 or so years and surprisingly enough the common response from people is that food has gotten worst. Again maybe attributable to the aging process but I'm not so certain. All i know is processed food/agricultural production always scales to the cheapest ingredients/method. You get less food now and it tastes worst or you pay a large premium. I don't trust the organic label in supermarkets either because it seems to have been perverted into yet another marketing gimmick with really no accountability for violating established policies on labelling. The only food that tastes "good" to me anymore is grown from seed organically by hand to ensure a minimum of contamination which is so impractical for the vast majority of people (me included). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 To many city slickers in forumville, thus GMO's are always going to be questioned by the majority of posters. Again, for the labeling of all food products, that are connected with GMO's if concerned with that. Fact is, one is probably consuming a broad range of healthier food products before the introduction of GMO's and it's widespread popularity..........farmers are using far less pesticides in their crop production, water is cleaner, air is cleaner. The regulations set forth by a number of organizations and the USDA are strict for farmers nationwide...........again, GMO's are far, far, far down the list of things one should be worried about when consuming proper food items to stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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