sleepy Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yanks Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Alaskan amber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Sleepy on the rail!! Sleepy I used to jog a few, pull your arms right out your shoulders if they wanna go Like to get to Aces someday know a couple of drivers from long ago. Scare the piss out the fukks if I stop by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Sleepy on the rail!! Sleepy I used to jog a few, pull your arms right out your shoulders if they wanna go Like to get to Aces someday know a couple of drivers from long ago. Scare the piss out the fukks if I stop by. I briefly worked for Fred List at Western Fair late 80's. When getting hired he asked me if I could jog horses, I said of course. First horse he gives me to jog was a cheap claiming $3k claiming mare named Janey Gee. So I jump on the jog cart and away we go. Get on the track going the wrong way on the outside as you are supposed to when going slow and boom the mare wants to go. I'm using 100% of my strength to try and hold her back but no fukkin bueno, she goes as fast as she wanted for almost 2 miles before she slowed down. Fred List was on the track jogging another horse and I'm sure he was impressed with my skills as I blew by him a few times. Didn't realize the mare was in to race that night and she won. True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I briefly worked for Fred List at Western Fair late 80's. When getting hired he asked me if I could jog horses, I said of course. First horse he gives me to jog was a cheap claiming $3k claiming mare named Janey Gee. So I jump on the jog cart and away we go. Get on the track going the wrong way on the outside as you are supposed to when going slow and boom the mare wants to go. I'm using 100% of my strength to try and hold her back but no fukkin bueno, she goes as fast as she wanted for almost 2 miles before she slowed down. Fred List was on the track jogging another horse and I'm sure he was impressed with my skills as I blew by him a few times. Didn't realize the mare was in to race that night and she won. True story. A pullin whore she was lolol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I spent five miles in a jog cart once trying to get a nice mare to settle and trot. Fukkin sow broke the whole 5.Seasick and couldn't tie my shoes two days. Your Indigo, Richard Carroll trained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 A pullin whore she was lololActually was sometime in 1985, not late 80's. I was only involved with the jugheads for a couple of years as an experiment, was alot more involved in the Thoroughbred side of racing at Woodbine/Ft Erie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Actually was sometime in 1985, not late 80's. I was only involved with the jugheads for a couple of years as an experiment, was alot more involved in the Thoroughbred side of racing at Woodbine/Ft Erie. That's fukkin cool nice you saved! I couldn't get licensed although a had a piece of several over the years. Absolutely love the animals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Looks cold there sleepy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I spent the entire 1984 season as a groom at Ft Erie. For trainer Conrad Cohen. Made $210 a week plus bonuses for wins. Lived in a tack room in the stabling area. Looking back I wonder how I did it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 I spent the entire 1984 season as a groom at Ft Erie. For trainer Conrad Cohen. Made $210 a week plus bonuses for wins. Lived in a tack room in the stabling area. Looking back I wonder how I did it. Man I know dozens of guy lived in a tack. Donut Dougie Ross my favorite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Man I know dozens of guy lived in a tack. Donut Dougie Ross my favoriteThe only reason I chose to work at Ft Erie and not Woodbine was because I wanted to party. On Fridays (payday) we'd drink at Cirillo's in Ft Erie until 1AM then get in a cab and head over to Buffalo NY and drink to 4AM and return to Ft Erie by 5AM ready to go back to work. Never realized I was underage drinking in NY state. Not that anyone ever checked ID's back then. Horses need to be fed every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy kgb Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Sleepy is a bonafide loser.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobyTyler Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Good video Sleepy any winners while there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Looks cold there sleepyupper 70's today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Good video Sleepy any winners while there? nope got skunked $12 down the shitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 $12 buys alot of candy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Harness racing a tough gig. Tough sport for owners to make money in. Small pools and hard to get any big money down for bettors. Most of the thoroughbred jockeys are latino. A lot of the drivers in harness racing at the smaller tracks are the owners and trainers as well. I don't really bet harness races. Only thoroughbreds. But I know some people in Vegas who are some of the bigger simulcast bettors in town as far as harness racing goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bfo Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Harness racing a tough gig. Tough sport for owners to make money in. Small pools and hard to get any big money down for bettors. Most of the thoroughbred jockeys are latino. A lot of the drivers in harness racing at the smaller tracks are the owners and trainers as well. I don't really bet harness races. Only thoroughbreds. But I know some people in Vegas who are some of the bigger simulcast bettors in town as far as harness racing goes.All kind of shady shit goes on at the smaller harness tracks. Some of the bigger ones as well, know an owner that's a former trainer/driver at Yonkers and Freehold and some of the shit he's told me is disgusting. I've sat there and heard him talk to drivers on the phone and it has disillusioned me from following the sport forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Harness racing a tough gig. Tough sport for owners to make money in. Small pools and hard to get any big money down for bettors. Most of the thoroughbred jockeys are latino. A lot of the drivers in harness racing at the smaller tracks are the owners and trainers as well. I don't really bet harness races. Only thoroughbreds. But I know some people in Vegas who are some of the bigger simulcast bettors in town as far as harness racing goes. True in small markets. The harness pools at the major harness tracks like The Meadowlands and Woodbine/Mohawk are very bettable. Not like Santa Anita but still bettable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 All kind of shady shit goes on at the smaller harness tracks. Some of the bigger ones as well, know an owner that's a former trainer/driver at Yonkers and Freehold and some of the shit he's told me is disgusting. I've sat there and heard him talk to drivers on the phone and it has disillusioned me from following the sport forever.Lots of cheating going in all racing, both Standardbred and Thoroughbred - the guys doing the cheating don't see it that way, they see it as getting an edge because everyone is trying. I always got a chuckle when I'd hear guys at the track see a heavy favourite break stride and the payouts on the gimmicks would be huge, they would say the drivers all had it. Well if the drivers all had the exotic bets then they wouldn't pay what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 All kind of shady shit goes on at the smaller harness tracks. Some of the bigger ones as well, know an owner that's a former trainer/driver at Yonkers and Freehold and some of the shit he's told me is disgusting. I've sat there and heard him talk to drivers on the phone and it has disillusioned me from following the sport forever. Certainly. I've heard some pretty crazy stories myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 True in small markets. The harness pools at the major harness tracks like The Meadowlands and Woodbine/Mohawk are very bettable. Not like Santa Anita but still bettable. Even the pool sizes at the Meadowlands are no better than a midlevel thoroughbred track 99% of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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