baseball Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Same thing as a pitcher in baseball having a little pine tar on bill of his hat. Nothing. Classic case of modern media (esp ESPN) creating nothing out of something for the sole purpose of gaining viewers, listeners or page clicks. The patriots did nothing wrong, I hope they win the SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 huh? if they (a team who has cheated before) is proven to be cheating again. yes something must be done. Either give out a penalty or simply do away with the rule about lbs of pressure required in the ball. Your analogy is wrong. A better baseball one would be if you could prove a team when at bat was getting balls not approved by MLB onto the field to improve chances of hitting a homerun. And that WERE PROVEN,you could bet your ass MLB would come down hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 huh? if they (a team who has cheated before) is proven to be cheating again. yes something must be done. Either give out a penalty or simply do away with the rule about lbs of pressure required in the ball. Your analogy is wrong. A better baseball one would be if you could prove a team when at bat was getting balls not approved by MLB onto the field to improve chances of hitting a homerun. And that WERE PROVEN,you could bet your ass MLB would come down hard. No my analogy is spot on. Cheating would be stealing the other teams play book or videotaping their practices or paying a coach or player on other team to reveal team secrets or signs. Letting a a few millipounds of air pressure out of a football is not "cheating". If they had let a lot of air out of the balls to where you could squish the ball, that would be different. But there was just slightly less than required which is no big deal, I'm sure lots of teams do it to an extent. Just like in baseball pine tar is only a big deal when the guy has a huge glib of it and it's obvious, if he is just using a little than nobody cares because the other team probably uses a little to. Just part of the game and nothing to see here folk, just an ESPN createdt firestorm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 We will see how Spot on you are when the NFL hands out a penalty and we will compare to what we have seen is done when a SINGLE PLAYER uses pine tar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 We will see how Spot on you are when the NFL hands out a penalty and we will compare to what we have seen is done when a SINGLE PLAYER uses pine tar. Nothing there pal. You are either buying into the ESPN created hysteria or you are a pats hater. One of the two. Nothing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 un huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Bbb, ESPN loves guys like you. Guys like you are why ESPN makes so much money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I love to be loved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanks Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Pine tar is a foreign substance. A deflated ball is easier to catch and is apparently easier to throw. A better analogy would be saying the pitcher is inserting a ball that isn't mlb approved and wound right enough. So when the ball is it it won't be hit S hard and far. Cheating is cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Pine tar is a foreign substance. A deflated ball is easier to catch and is apparently easier to throw. A better analogy would be saying the pitcher is inserting a ball that isn't mlb approved and wound right enough. So when the ball is it it won't be hit S hard and far. Cheating is cheating. Nah, bending the rules a little yes, but not cheating. Everyone calm down. The pats are here because they are the best team in the AFC bar none, not because they may have let a few fractions of a pound of air out of the friggin football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Keep in mid Boat is a man who took money from swindlers, and was happy to do it. His opinion about anything regarding cheating is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 ha Milkman is right I am known far and wide as being a unethical guy. Gotta keep your eye on me, I take $ that isn't mine all the time. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Keep in mid Boat is a man who took money from swindlers' date=' and was happy to do it. His opinion about anything regarding cheating is laughable.[/quote'] New transplant here from SBG merger, not up to snuff on TGF gossip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Speak your mind Mikeman. Fill in baseball, he is new to the forums. you can tell by his join date here. it's Jan. he needs you to give him the REAL story which we all know is YOUR version Mikeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 New transplant here from SBG merger, not up to snuff on TGF gossip This happened when he was at eog, I believe a sportsbook called easy st stiffed a guy who won 30K playing video poke(guy hit 2 or 3 royals), they claimed he cheated(which was proven wrong), Boat had the nerve to take a free trip from the crooks to costa rica, he won some money and under pressure said he paid the money he won to the guy(cory) that was cheated. Boat is a scumbag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Mikeman, IMO you should create a thread and go into more detail. I think its important all the folks here know what kind of person I am and how I would cheat and steal from anyone here if given a chance to. It's important that people who have the inside info and facts about the situation such as your self are heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Mikeman, IMO you should create a thread and go into more detail. I think its important all the folks here know what kind of person I am and how I would cheat and steal from anyone here if given a chance to. It's important that people who have the inside info and facts about the situation such as your self are heard. You may or may not be a decent guy, but in this situation you showed your true colors, willing to pal around with crooked books to get a free handout. Inside info huh? Yup, straight from the crooks mouth that is. Amazing that you make a big deal about brock stiffing you after your sordid past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Merger was a good idea, this forum is much juicer than sbg pop fucking corn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Mike I am encouraging you to create a thread expose my true colors to anyone who cares to read. I am fearful your comments will not be seen by all in this thread. 10's of thousands of dollars of prize money passes thru my hands. IMO the players need to know as much as they can about my character. You would be doing a service to the posters here and your voice will not be silenced by locking or moving or deleting the thread. All the people have heard the bullshit stories and lies I have made up about the Cory111 deal. It's a good thing if they hear from someone like you who really knows what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Diabler Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think this baseball guy is making a good analogy. Doctoring a baseball vs doctoring a football to gain a competitive advantage. Very similar in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball Posted January 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I think this baseball guy is making a good analogy. Doctoring a baseball vs doctoring a football to gain a competitive advantage. Very similar in my opinion. My point exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 a pitcher or a batter altering a ball with spit or a bat with tar is NO WHERE near a TEAM using 11 balls in a football game that have air taken out of them. now if a baseball TEAM used dead balls when on def or live balls when batting it would be the same. You will see when the NFL rules on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Diabler Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 a pitcher or a batter altering a ball with spit or a bat with tar is NO WHERE near a TEAM using 11 balls in a football game that have air taken out of them. now if a baseball TEAM used dead balls when on def or live balls when batting it would be the same. You will see when the NFL rules on this. Your 1st point is strictly your opinion. And I disagree with you. I believe both things are very big deals. Doctoring a ball to gain a competitive advantage. The difference is, in baseball, it has been somewhat part of the culture, fabric, and history of the game. So it is not seen as a huge deal. When it probably should be. On your last point, I agree with you. This is a big deal. Its a big advantage. Just like doctoring a baseball gives the pitcher a huge advantage. And in the end, the NFL will come down hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Of course it's cheating. And we all know Tom Brady was behind it. No way he didn't know those balls were deflated. Fuckin' punk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 He said he didn't know anything about it, and that he would never, ever, cheat. I believe him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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