yisman Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 https://twitter.com/Dbacks/status/1070439223713423360 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Got him for 1 year, gave next to nothing for him as well. Good move, now carpenter can play 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted December 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Luke Weaver is a big piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Chapo2017 Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Cool. Goldy is solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Luke Weaver is a big piecehe was good for half a year Was no longer a starter for the Cardinals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted December 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Weaver would've been in the rotation for next season. Obviously now he will be in Arizona's rotation instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Weaver would've been in the rotation for next season. Obviously now he will be in Arizona's rotation instead.he sucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted December 5, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 he sucked Congrats to Luke Weaver of the Arizona Diamondbacks. 2019 NL Cy Young Award winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Raver Camper Posted December 5, 2018 Report Share Posted December 5, 2018 Ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Weaver may end up as Jeremy Hellickson 2.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjt Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Weaver may end up as Jeremy Hellickson 2.0He may suck and never strike anyone out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Weaver may end up as Jeremy Hellickson 2.0 Not really a good comparison. Weaver is younger and has far less of a MLB sample size. These MLB trades when stars are involved almost never look fair on paper when they happen. At least to the average fan. You won't be able to fairly judge this for 2-3 years. And the only real way the Cardinals can end up winning this trade in the end, is if they A) win a World Series in 2019 or B) they re-sign him after this season. Neither is a lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted December 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Cardinals lose this trade unless it somehow gets them a WS in 2019. He'll be a FA after and if they manage to re-sign him, it'll be for huge money which they could've done anyway. Key with trades is how long you have control of a player for. The Cardinals get one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Cardinals lose this trade unless it somehow gets them a WS in 2019. He'll be a FA after and if they manage to re-sign him, it'll be for huge money which they could've done anyway. Key with trades is how long you have control of a player for. The Cardinals get one season. Yup. But I will slightly disagree with you if they re-sign him. Yes, they could have signed him next year anyway without trading for him. But you would think they would be one of the favorites to land him if they pony up and he has a great year there. St. Louis falls in love with their stars and he may love playing for the Cardinals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I'm not the average fan and I also know how to evaluate pitchers. They are more similar than you think! Btw, Hellboy rocked it early on; Weaver has not. Hellboy at worst, Generic Maddux at best, you hope he's somewhere in between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I'm not the average fan and I also know how to evaluate pitchers. They are more similar than you think! Btw, Hellboy rocked it early on; Weaver has not. Hellboy at worst, Generic Maddux at best, you hope he's somewhere in between.Didn’t Hellickson have a major arm injury before his stint in AZ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Didn’t Hellickson have a major arm injury before his stint in AZ? I wasn't comparing him to Hellboy's time in AZ....I was meaning his Rays time and how he looked coming up, what was said about him, etc. Obv the AZ hellboy was a shell of himself and in no way would that be fair since Weaver hasn't had those injuries---just struggles. But if you read all the stuff that was said about each as prospects n what not, pretty similar profiles all around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 I wasn't comparing him to Hellboy's time in AZ....I was meaning his Rays time and how he looked coming up, what was said about him, etc. Obv the AZ hellboy was a shell of himself and in no way would that be fair since Weaver hasn't had those injuries---just struggles. But if you read all the stuff that was said about each as prospects n what not, pretty similar profiles all around. Fair enough. I think we could find much better comparisons if we thought hard enough though. Decent prospect pitchers the DBacks traded for when they only had a couple of years of MLB service under their belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machiavelli Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Let's hope Weaver isn't like another former Stl guy, Shelby Miller... who the dbacks got off the Braves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Let's hope Weaver isn't like another former Stl guy, Shelby Miller... who the dbacks got off the Braves.That very well could go down as the worst trade in franchise history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanks Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 That very well could go down as the worst trade in franchise history.Ken Phelps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMtribe17 Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Congrats to Luke Weaver of the Arizona Diamondbacks. 2019 NL Cy Young Award winner. You can probably throw WS MVP in there also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Cardinals have a ton of money to spend.. there will be a few more big pieces added Nelly is recruiting Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajt Posted December 6, 2018 Report Share Posted December 6, 2018 Kinger already has his Weaver Dbacks jersey preordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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