ChicagoReallySucks Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 $500 M-G payout this morning with a $55 fee Makes me hope federal govt legalizes sports betting soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 who paid the fees when you deposit it was it you or the book Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoReallySucks Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 who paid the fees when you deposit it was it you or the book What do you mean? There are no fees when I deposit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 What do you mean? There are no fees when I deposit he means the book probably paid $30 or so on each end, so they're breaking even at best on fees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoReallySucks Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 he means the book probably paid $30 or so on each end, so they're breaking even at best on fees I deposit with visa there are no fees. Had I deposited with M-G I would have paid the fee. Not sure what you two are trying to get at here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I deposit with visa there are no fees. Had I deposited with M-G I would have paid the fee. Not sure what you two are trying to get at here? ok... i wasn't getting at anything, just saying what i thought boat3 meant which is that they're overcompensating on the back end. the sportsbook still paid a fee to take your deposit, they just ate it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayden11 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 That's what prevents me from playing at some shops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoReallySucks Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Poster 3boat seems to really sympathize with the books at all times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Poster 3boat seems to really sympathize with the books at all times i feel for you chicagosucks. been there more than enough times myself. hrwager gives 1 free payout a month which saves $70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayden11 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Poster 3boat seems to really sympathize with the books at all times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Poster 3boat seems to really sympathize with the books at all times I asked you who paid the deposit fees. yikes nothing more nothing less BTW they paid the 3% on the CC when you deposited , but that is the cost of doing bizz. you will find a number of books that will cover fees for you both ways (in and out) on a limited basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
po69 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 You main problem is that you only requested $500!! Why not wait until you get to $1500 or so or at least $1000. The fees would be the same. Oh and the book does lose AT LEAST 3% of your deposit when you use visa or master card. Most likely their % LOSS is around 5%. No reason to take a payout at just $500. I sort of blame you here as well. The $55 would have probably been about the same charge had you requested $1000 or $1500 via moneygram. Or at least getting $1500 via moneygram would only be around $80 or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 You main problem is that you only requested $500!! moving smaller amounts of funds around is quite costly from a % basis, no doubt. there isn't a magic button the book or player can press to just make the money move back and forth with having to PAY PEOPLE to move the money. IMO the bizz to be in if one lived in costa wouldn't be as the bookie it would be as these processors . those guys make a killing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 You main problem is that you only requested $500!! Why not wait until you get to $1500 or so or at least $1000. The fees would be the same. Oh and the book does lose AT LEAST 3% of your deposit when you use visa or master card. Most likely their % LOSS is around 5%. No reason to take a payout at just $500. I sort of blame you here as well. The $55 would have probably been about the same charge had you requested $1000 or $1500 via moneygram. Or at least getting $1500 via moneygram would only be around $80 or so how many sponsors here do 1000 or 1500 moneygram? max at betonline is 750, max at hrw/americasbookie/1vice is 700 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I asked you who paid the deposit fees. yikes nothing more nothing less BTW they paid the 3% on the CC when you deposited , but that is the cost of doing bizz. you will find a number of books that will cover fees for you both ways (in and out) on a limited basis they pay a lot more than 3%, that's what a legitimate business pays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 moving smaller amounts of funds around is quite costly from a % basis, no doubt. there isn't a magic button the book or player can press to just make the money move back and forth with having to PAY PEOPLE to move the money. IMO the bizz to be in if one lived in costa wouldn't be as the bookie it would be as these processors . those guys make a killing. actually there is, it's called bitcoin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoReallySucks Posted March 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 I asked you who paid the deposit fees. yikes nothing more nothing less BTW they paid the 3% on the CC when you deposited , but that is the cost of doing bizz. you will find a number of books that will cover fees for you both ways (in and out) on a limited basis Maybe you are right about them covering small deposit fee but charging me well over 10% to withdraw seem overkill (to me at least). I came in complaint about gorging withdraw fees and you insinuate it's ok for book to gorge me because I guess they cover small 3% fee on the deposit? CRS: damn I got fucking gorged more than 10% on a withdraw this morning 3boat: but you deserve to get gorged since after all the book may have covered a 3% fee on the deposit end Yes my book has 1 free payout but they wouldn't give it to me they say I don't have 4 straight weeks of action. I like my book they very good and pay fast I just got my info now to go pick up the cash and it hasn't even been 2 hours. Just in general we the players seem to be getting gorged when cashing out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
po69 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 how many sponsors here do 1000 or 1500 moneygram? max at betonline is 750, max at hrw/americasbookie/1vice is 700 No one said that he used a sponsor, I was talking about 5dimes. And before you say that there limit on the website says $899, then I would tell you that they will send more! But you have to call them when you request your payout. For some reason people never actually get on the phone with a book. They like to live chat and of course the same offer wouldn't be the same over a live chat. The book doesn't really know whom they are talking too. But 5dimes gives out up to $2000 via western union and I believe that the charge in January for $2000 was $85. Now of course I had to call when I requested the payout, I didn't do it online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 they pay a lot more than 3%, that's what a legitimate business pays. I am quite aware of what they pay, but if I had posted the # I would have been sympathizing with the books. Like I said, the processing is where the $ is at, and one heck of a lot less risk. Any charge backs are simply passed on to the book. Every transaction if a 100% sure profit, zero risk. deposit 100 bucks, and a few weeks latter pull out 200. By the time the dust settles, there will be damn near as much in fees that someone pays (book or player) to move that money back and forth as there was in "profit" generated from the gambling. Its a pain for ALL evolved for sure. Than a book has a process or that shuts their doors and all the books clients have SLOW payouts and players are upset (as they should be FTR) a total pain again.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
po69 Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 And I pretty damn sure that hrwager sends out moneygrams for more than $700 at a time as well. But you have to call them when you make your payout. Don't do the shit via chat or online, just pick up the phone and call. But that is why I don't play at betonline or americasbookie very much as well. And if that is the REAL LIMIT at hrwager, then I certainly wouldn't deposit too much there either. That is why 90% of wagering online occurs at 5dimes. They don't limit your max bet to your deposit. I can easily deposit $250 today at 5dimes and win a 2 team parlay and then tomorrow bet a $750 parlay. Then the next day I can wager $1000 or $1500 straight bets. So if I have a high balance at any book, it had better be at 5dimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 More risk of jail, no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 And I pretty damn sure that hrwager sends out moneygrams for more than $700 at a time as well. But you have to call them when you make your payout. Don't do the shit via chat or online, just pick up the phone and call. But that is why I don't play at betonline or americasbookie very much as well. And if that is the REAL LIMIT at hrwager, then I certainly wouldn't deposit too much there either. That is why 90% of wagering online occurs at 5dimes. They don't limit your max bet to your deposit. I can easily deposit $250 today at 5dimes and win a 2 team parlay and then tomorrow bet a $750 parlay. Then the next day I can wager $1000 or $1500 straight bets. So if I have a high balance at any book, it had better be at 5dimes A great deal of truth in your post. 5 dimes is a very good books imo But with that being said if looking for quick easy ways to pick up extra bankroll to work with,its hard to beat the contest books we have here. be it getting free plays, silver coins, Walmart cards, food shipped to your home, remote control toys, trips to vegas. THAT STUFF ALL ADDS UP PRETTY QUICK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Do keep in mind that fees to withdraw and deposit are the $$ that the book has to pay a 3rd party to handle the transaction of moving the $ for them. Books would LOVE to have there be NO FEES, it would increase their bottom line and get more players to gamble on line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 Book is youwager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted March 6, 2015 Report Share Posted March 6, 2015 3boat: but you deserve to get gorged since after all the book may have covered a 3% fee on the deposit end I simply asked you who paid the fees to deposit. Hopefully you will win the $100 from 1vice tonight in the guess the score and have a +EV experience here at TGF Good luck with your plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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