FairWarning Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Dont follow you here. Per capita income?Drug companies know they can charge more in the US. They will charge what they think they can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 median per capita income way higher in the scandinavian countries and their health care is half the cost and twice the quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Drug companies know they can charge more in the US. They will charge what they think they can get.The U.S. market subsidizes pharma for the rest of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailsyoulose Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 median per capita income way higher in the scandinavian countries and their health care is half the cost and twice the quality. the social welfare state does not scale to more complex, non-homogeneous societies. this is a major error that simple-minded people do not understand. scandanavian countries have a rude awakening coming to them in the post-migration world. levels of social trust are already eroding there. their model of 'democratic socialism' will collapse within 10 years. 20, max. bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 median per capita income way higher in the scandinavian countries and their health care is half the cost and twice the quality.Sweden tax rate is 57% Denmark is 56%. No thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 The U.S. market subsidizes pharma for the rest of the world.Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Sweden tax rate is 57% Denmark is 56%. No thank you So?, Subtract the value of the services and programs, the pristine infrastructure, better health, longer life. the tax rate now is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 So?, Subtract the value of the services and programs, the pristine infrastructure, better health, longer life. the tax rate now is?still higher than ours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 still higher than ours No. You opine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 No. You opine. yes. Do you think we pay 25% in health care? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Add up all the money a typical family pays in child care. education, health insurance, elderly support, higher pension, less depreciation, lower general insurance......... Factor in an earlier retirement, a longer life, better health, better education, personal safety. Don't wanna do the math? What is each country's debt/GDP ratio. The lower it is, the more value you relieve for your tax dollars. US @ 106%Sweden @ 38% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Even I can do that math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 You can't have anywhere near the quality of life as Sweden because your gov't is broke. Sweden's debt has been shrinking for years, it is a happy, healthy country for the most part. The US is a shithole for 80% of it's residents. Stop pointing fingers and making excuses. Fix your shit. And stop electing self serving asshats to run the joint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 yes. Do you think we pay 25% in health care? No. Hey dummy. It's not what you pay. Its what you pay minus what you get. That's the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 that is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 You can't have anywhere near the quality of life as Sweden because your gov't is broke. Sweden's debt has been shrinking for years, it is a happy, healthy country for the most part. The US is a shithole for 80% of it's residents. Stop pointing fingers and making excuses. Fix your shit. And stop electing self serving asshats to run the joint.Sweden has 10 million people. Maybe compare them with another tiny economy instead of the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 538 Billion GDP54,628 GDP per capita 65,112 GDP per capita19.5 trillion GDP. Which country should have a better and more affordable health care system . Stop the excuses and rhetoric. Go elect someone who gonna fix yer shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Blame the size of the debt load not the size of the economy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Employers who offer insurance also get a pretty good price on a group rate. Small business don’t get those costs at all. Most of my customers had to offer insurance, yet don’t have it for themselves because they cannot afford it.Agreed and your second point is just not right/fair for those people. Back in the old days there were things like a 25000 deductible. I would still sell that if I could. A customer at least has a chance to pay that off. I do not even have a problem if that product is underwritten. The real cold,cruel world can be medicine. Put the money on the counter or walk. No back door emergency room there. But, some pharmaceutical companies are compassionate with coupons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguesser Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 WHY DOES THE USA HAVE BY FAR AND AWAY THE COSTLIEST HEALTH CARE ON THE PLANET BUT IS RANKED 37TH IN THE WORLD IN HEALTHCARE QUALITY???Too Afraid of actual change.because of scary words that trigger simpletons who can't think for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdalert447 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 During my weekly lunch with Doyle Brunson and Amarillo Sim, we agreed that this shitshow should be MERGED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdalert447 Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Tomorrow’s lunch: me, Johnny Chan, Gary Greene, and Jackie Gaughan. We’ll be discussing all you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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