roachman Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/blackjack/32868-harrah-cherokee-cheating/ https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/showthread.php?5309-Harrahs-Cherokee-cheating Hi TGF, I have been killing Cherokee casino counting cards, I went a 21 winning streak with some big wins. I never got any heat playing on the main floor and I had some monster wins, some shoes winning 7, 8, 15k. I even split 10s and tried to double down on A10 after splitting, I got into a heated argument with a bitchy boss. She said they do not allow any DD on 21 but i told her i was DD on 11 and show her the posted rules saying a player can DD on any 2 cards after splitting, Of ,course I lost the argument and the bet which I had 6k at risk. if I was allowed to DD, the dealer would have busted it was a 12k swing. These Indian casino have no accountability. They stole 80k from Small Cap Growth and he just broke even but he was 86 back in 2014 so the Indians refuse to pay him. Cherokee was a beatable game especially with the free money coupons not those BS match play ones.. They suppress my free money coupons to $20 now I use to get 1k and 2k free money coupons no bS match play. They just went to 6/5 BJ instead of 3/2 on all the $15 tables and they are full of floppies. Looks like this 6/5 BJ is trending at most casinos.Cherokee is getting very greedy, they got rid of the Firebet and make you pay juice on all lays and buys on Craps I have won 12k winning 10 out 12 trips since the reopening keeping my winnings small and not playing long sessions, Cherokee is suppose to get a Sportsbook but its been over a year since they announced it, I think these greedy Indians want more vig from whoever is running the book. There are 3 new casinos coming soon near Charlotte, too bad they are all Indains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KingKolzig Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 did you say you tried to double down on a 21? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roachman Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Yes the count justify splitting 10s vs 6 and i got an Ace on a 10 and tried to DD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy kgb Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 How many decks? They clearly know you’re counting? Place must get flooded with counters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roachman Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 decks with 1-1.5 cut on the main floor, which is very good. Small Cap ruined the 6 deck hand shuffled $100 high limit game, I just inspected the penetration, Cherokee countered by cutting away 2.-2.5 decks which is not playable. I feel a ban is coming but I am going to milk them till then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKolzig Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 id like to see the guidebook where it says to dd on a 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Teddy kgb Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 id like to see the guidebook where it says to dd on a 21He doubled on 11 v 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roachman Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 You guys just don`t know BJ math, ask any counters if the count is high enough to split 10s vs dealer 6 its certainly high enough to DD 11 vs 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKolzig Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 oh i dont play BJ that much i thought when you have A-10 on a split that equals 21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roachman Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 here you guys need to read this book I don`t have time to teach, school is out online only , lol https://kupdf.net/download/ken-uston-million-dollar-blackjack-1_58d30fe1dc0d60a373c3468d_pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roachman Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 oh i dont play BJ that much i thought when you have A-10 on a split that equals 21Ace can be counted as 1 or 11 sir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy kgb Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 You guys just don`t know BJ math, ask any counters if the count is high enough to split 10s vs dealer 6 its certainly high enough to DD 11 vs 6.You guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 This is not an AP forum so your info is falling on deaf ears. This forum exists so that people can call each other names; especially Brock. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roachman Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 This is not an AP forum so your info is falling on deaf ears. This forum exists so that people can call each other names; especially Brock. BAUSLOL, I know Baus, that is why i hardly post on here anymore. I just wanted to get the word out about how Cherokee stiffed a player that they let lose 80k and win it back and then they refuse to cash his chips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Your chart doesn’t show doubling a-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 When the heat is on the last thing you want to do is argue with the pitboss on a very small +EV play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 LOL, I know Baus, that is why i hardly post on here anymore. I just wanted to get the word out about how Cherokee stiffed a player that they let lose 80k and win it back and then they refuse to cash his chips.Indians a complete different set of regulations, as you know.Continued success moving forward. The tribes in NM and Iowa have been paying dividends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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