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1 minute ago, mikeman said:

The only thing I see him addressing is stressing how great he was to get warp speed going, the vaccine has now been around for 7 months, it has failed to really change anything, if anything they have made it worse because the enemy now has a chance and excuse to strip our rights away.

Welp then you are making false statements without reading as usual, because he HAS addressed these issues.

 

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35 minutes ago, mikeman said:

The only thing I see him addressing is stressing how great he was to get warp speed going, the vaccine has now been around for 7 months, it has failed to really change anything, if anything they have made it worse because the enemy now has a chance and excuse to strip our rights away.

You are still not getting that w/o the VAX we would already be locked down. Not just us but large chunks of the WORLD

Operation Warp Speed prevented lockdowns:bulb

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1 minute ago, RaiseThese said:

You are still not getting that w/o the VAX we would already be locked down. Not just us but large chunks of the WORLD

Operation Warp Speed prevented lockdowns:bulb

Nonsense, the original shutdowns in march of 2020 lasted 6-8 weeks, the late fall one from thanksgiving to early jan, lifting them had nothing to do with the vaccine.

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5 minutes ago, mikeman said:

Nonsense, the original shutdowns in march of 2020 lasted 6-8 weeks, the late fall one from thanksgiving to early jan, lifting them had nothing to do with the vaccine.

 

Please research a little and understand the enemies plans and then we can talk,,,you are woefully behind

Your depth of knowledge on this subject is about kiddie pool level.

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5 hours ago, mikeman said:

 

It's incredible how smart "average" people are compared to PhD holders and "experts". 

Most people with phds would mock this guy as an imbecile, yet he is far and away more intelligent than 99% of people, and wayyyyyyy smarter than scientists and policy makers. 

Every word he says here is true. Again.

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Another article about sweden.

Sweden: Despite Variants, No Lockdowns, No Daily COVID Deaths

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by Tyler Durden
Wednesday, Aug 04, 2021 - 03:30 AM

Authored by Michael Fumento via The American Institute for Economic Research,

Since the Covid pandemic broke out, Sweden has been fought over more than any other part of Europe since Germany in the 30 Years War. In refusing to use an iron fist to control a virus, lockdown advocates claimed it was either committing murder or suicide; choose your favorite metaphor. Relatively few such as me, in three separate articles, claimed the Nordic country was sparing both the economy and something called “liberty” with its light-handed approach.

My favorite title (editor chose it): Media Enraged That More Swedes Aren’t Dying.”

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Thus last year we saw such headlines as CNN’s “Deaths Soar In Country That Didn’t Lock Down. Officials Identify Big Reason Why.” Around the same time “Sweden Steadfast In Strategy As Virus Toll Continues Rising,” claimed another source. “Sweden’s Coronavirus Strategy Drives Up Infection Rate,” screamed the BBC. Everyone was playing pile-on. “Sweden Has The Highest Daily Coronavirus Death Rate In The World – And It’s Getting Worse.” That’s from Yahoo Sports. Sports?

Modelers desperately tried to scare Sweden into locking down. One predicted an incredible median of 96,000 deaths, with a maximum of 183,000. At Sweden’s Lund University an academic used the parameters in the now-infamous Neil Ferguson/Imperial College model to warn that it meant 85,000 deaths for Sweden. An Uppsala University team also found the nation paying a terrible price with 40,000 Covid-19 deaths by May 1, 2020 and almost 100,000 by June. 

Total Swedish Covid deaths at this writing: 14,651.

It’s not that Sweden did nothing – but very little.

“From the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, the Public Health Agency . . . embarked on a de-facto herd immunity approach, allowing community transmission to occur relatively unchecked,” declared a scathing editorial in the leftwing medical journal The Lancet last December.

“No mandatory measures were taken to limit crowds on public transport, in shopping malls, or in other crowded places,” it said.

“Coronavirus testing, contact tracing, source identification, and reporting, as recommended by WHO, were limited and remain inadequate.”

High schools closed temporarily, but grade schools never.

“In our view,” snarled The Lancet, “there is still not sufficient recognition in the national strategy of the importance of pre-symptomatic and asymptomatic transmission, aerosol transmission, and use of face masks.”

Time to revisit Sweden as much of the world starts locking down and masking again regardless of vaccination levels, blaming the Delta variant. And those impudent Swedes are pretty much refusing to die of Covid at all.

Not to say that vaccines haven’t contributed to the current low numbers, but … cases peaked during the first week of January while vaccinations didn’t even begin until the end of that month. Currently Sweden ranks 18th in Europe in vaccines per capita, right in the middle. Likewise, there are those who say Sweden finally buckled down and imposed serious restrictions. It didn’t. It imposed more restrictions in the second week of January, perhaps more in response to international opprobrium than anything else. But yes, it was after cases not only had started dropping but actually plummeted by more than half.

What’s happening? According to an as-yet unpublished but online study by two Svenske researchers, it appears the country has reached that Holy Grail of Covid called “herd immunity.” That means a level where those already protected are significantly guarding those without exposure. Mind, they say, it’s not all from Covid-19 per se but possibly in great part to “pre-immunity” from other infections. Four coronaviruses are known to cause colds, but the researchers actually don’t even mention that. It’s just that previous exposure to something seems to be providing natural inoculation. And it shouldn’t be as unique to Sweden as Ingrid Bergman.

Mind, the current figures are just a snapshot. Did the country pay an awful price en route to the apparent herd immunity?

Well, certainly the Swedish death rate is higher than its Nordic neighbors Norway, Denmark, and Finland. Those are the comparisons you’ll hear. But it’s well below the rates for larger-population European countries including Belgium, Italy, the U.K., Romania, Spain, France, and Portugal. The U.S., too.

Sweden’s chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, who caught absolute hell, feels vindicated.

“Locking down is saving time,” he said last year. “It’s not solving anything.” In essence the country “front-loaded” its deaths and decreased those deaths later on.

Meanwhile, the Swede haters have also insisted that in exchange for its “butcher’s bill” the country was deriving little or no economic benefit from not shutting down.

“Sweden unlikely to feel economic benefit of no-lockdown approach,” warned the Financial Times in a May 10, 2020 headline. It admitted that so far Sweden has fared better, but select “analysts” cautioned it wouldn’t last.

Wrong. Despite Sweden inevitably feeling undertow from economies that did lock down, “Covid-19 has had a rather limited impact on its economy compared with most other European countries,” according to the Nordetrade.com consulting firm. “Softer preventative restrictions against Covid-19 earlier in the year and a strong recovery in the third quarter contained the GDP contraction,” it said.

Thus the country the media loved to hate is reaping the best of all worlds: Few current cases and deaths, stronger economic growth than the lockdown countries, and its people never experienced the yoke of tyranny.

Not surprisingly, it’s not just Sweden’s pro-freedom position on Covid that sticks in the MSM’s craw. Though routinely labeled “socialist,” it ranks 10th out of 190 economies for ease of doing business, according to the World Bank’s Doing Business report for 2020.

Which for a lot of people is presumably another good reason to hate them.

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This happens more and more.

Commentary: I went to a party with 14 other vaccinated people; 11 of us got COVID

 

Allan Massie, The Baltimore Sun
Wed, August 4, 2021, 5:45 AM
 
 

I was sitting on an examination table at an urgent care clinic in Timonium, giving my history to a physician’s assistant. An hour later, she would call me to confirm that I was positive for COVID-19.

Given the way that I felt, it was what I expected. But it wasn’t supposed to happen: I’ve been fully vaccinated for months.

Five days earlier, I had gone to a house party in Montgomery County. There were 15 adults there, all of us fully vaccinated. The next day, our host started to feel sick. The day after that, she tested positive for COVID-19. She let all of us know right away. I wasn’t too worried. It was bad luck for my friend, but surely she wasn’t that contagious. Surely all of us were immune. I’d been sitting across the room from her. I figured I’d stay home and isolate from my family for a few days, and that would be that. And even that seemed like overkill.

The official Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guideline stated that, since I was fully vaccinated, I didn’t need to do anything different unless I started developing symptoms. I’m an epidemiologist at a major medical research university, which has a dedicated COVID exposure hotline for staff. I called it, and workers said I didn’t need to do anything.

 

Then, I started to hear that a few other people who had been at the party were getting sick. Then a few more. At this point, 11 of the 15 have tested positive for COVID.

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12 minutes ago, HurryUpAndDrink said:

omg, U ARE TOTALLY BRAINWASHED

this is how I know u lost it

defending vaccines now?

No moron , stop lying for a change and read....its not about DEFENDING the vax , its explaining the vax from a different level.......

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/vacnwo/

 

We are in a war, casualties are going to happen either way.

I still am against the Gene Therapy.....you realize that its possible to say "dont take it" and still understand why Trump had to got that route.

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20 minutes ago, RaiseThese said:

No moron , stop lying for a change and read....its not about DEFENDING the vax , its explaining the vax from a different level.......

https://www.stopworldcontrol.com/vacnwo/

 

We are in a war, casualties are going to happen either way.

I still am against the Gene Therapy.....you realize that its possible to say "dont take it" and still understand why Trump had to got that route.

Those are are straight poo pooing the idea are truley NOT understanding the alternative situation.

Try real hard to imagine everything you know now about the Cabal and what it would be like if there was NOT a vaccine, they trying hard as hell to lock us down NOW (already happening elsewhere) but imagine what it would be like if the Vax didnt exist yet.

Its folly to think that we would be better off with that scenario , WHY , because we would be locked down and the country devasted and they STILL would have come out with the VAX in a couple or 3 years and we would have been so demoralized that people would be begging for ANY reason to be set free.....not to mention that it would be mandated anyway:bulb

REally try and put yourself in that kind of timeline and convince yourself  that we wouldnt be locked down right now without the vax.

I know this is a challenging concept to entertain because its not something they will talk about on CNN, MSNNBC or even FOX.....the MSM has warped many a mind, lib and conservative.

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yeah everything boils down to Trump being smarter than everyone, and touched directly by Jesus himself to save the Earth from the pedos.

Diana, JFK Jr and Michael Jackson will pop up from a cake when he gets in power again....

It was supposed to happen last year, but we can do 4 more years of death, evil, kid raping and baby eating. WHY NOT?

Yeah... Jesus and God were always about procrastination...

What once sounded like a great plan, is now sounding retarded. Just retarded.

Trump only cares about himself in the end, when they made him choice between a bullet in the brain and the keys of the white house he folded like a twink.

And De Santis is no better deep down.

Yes, they both successfully represent what WE ALL WANT, but they are far from it. The system is broken and cannot be repaired, just destroyed.

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