mikeman Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, KingKolzig said: the internet is all fake garbage. cant trust any video or pic you see then imagine being rocky on a bender lol. hes getting very close to the point of no return with the coke It hurts me when i see you two old friends at each others throat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, mikeman said: It hurts me when i see you two old friends at each others throat. This troubles me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EugeneMorgan Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, mikeman said: It hurts me when i see you two old friends at each others throat. Sad but true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKolzig Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 think about how many ppl i battle with? then think about how many ppl he is always fighting. and im here 24/7 too hes not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Russians pushing ahead in eastern ukraine, this is where the ukranians tried to blow that dam yesterday. No word on what's going on with that dam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xyz Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Kissinger has weighed in. Scroll back up to restore default view. Henry Kissinger: Ukraine must give Russia territory Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Mon, May 23, 2022, 12:48 PM·6 min read Vladimir Putin Henry Kissinger Ukraine Russia invasion war food prices oil Europe sanctions Zelensky - EPA/SERGEI CHIRIKOV Veteran US statesman Henry Kissinger has urged the West to stop trying to inflict a crushing defeat on Russian forces in Ukraine, warning that it would have disastrous consequences for the long term stability of Europe. The former US secretary of state and architect of the Cold War rapprochement between the US and China told a gathering in Davos that it would be fatal for the West to get swept up in the mood of the moment and forget the proper place of Russia in the European balance of power. Dr Kissinger said the war must not be allowed to drag on for much longer, and came close to calling on the West to bully Ukraine into accepting negotiations on terms that fall very far short of its current war aims. “Negotiations need to begin in the next two months before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily overcome. Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante. Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself,” he said. He told the World Economic Forum that Russia had been an essential part of Europe for 400 years and had been the guarantor of the European balance of power structure at critical times. European leaders should not lose sight of the longer term relationship, and nor should they risk pushing Russia into a permanent alliance with China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 15 minutes ago, xyz said: Kissinger has weighed in. Scroll back up to restore default view. Henry Kissinger: Ukraine must give Russia territory Ambrose Evans-Pritchard Mon, May 23, 2022, 12:48 PM·6 min read Vladimir Putin Henry Kissinger Ukraine Russia invasion war food prices oil Europe sanctions Zelensky - EPA/SERGEI CHIRIKOV Veteran US statesman Henry Kissinger has urged the West to stop trying to inflict a crushing defeat on Russian forces in Ukraine, warning that it would have disastrous consequences for the long term stability of Europe. The former US secretary of state and architect of the Cold War rapprochement between the US and China told a gathering in Davos that it would be fatal for the West to get swept up in the mood of the moment and forget the proper place of Russia in the European balance of power. Dr Kissinger said the war must not be allowed to drag on for much longer, and came close to calling on the West to bully Ukraine into accepting negotiations on terms that fall very far short of its current war aims. “Negotiations need to begin in the next two months before it creates upheavals and tensions that will not be easily overcome. Ideally, the dividing line should be a return to the status quo ante. Pursuing the war beyond that point would not be about the freedom of Ukraine, but a new war against Russia itself,” he said. He told the World Economic Forum that Russia had been an essential part of Europe for 400 years and had been the guarantor of the European balance of power structure at critical times. European leaders should not lose sight of the longer term relationship, and nor should they risk pushing Russia into a permanent alliance with China. They're oblivious to the simple fact that russia is taking a fair chunk of ukraine and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Now Obiden has taken an over 60 year tradition and cancelled it. All for Euro Star Zelensky. Somewhere Bono is grinning. Meanwhile American mothers cannot get baby formula, as Obiden sent the stock piles to the border for all the illegals. After he closed down Abbott's production. Nebraska will suspend its tradition of releasing red balloons after the first touchdown of home games due to a global helium shortage, athletic director Trev Alberts announced on his radio show Monday. Alberts said Nebraska will not hand out red balloons before home games at Memorial Stadium this fall. The tradition of releasing the balloons after Nebraska's first touchdown at home began in the 1960s. The helium shortage and supply-chain issues stem in part from sanctions against Russia, one of the world's top helium suppliers, following its invasion of Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 13 hours ago, KingKolzig said: everyone here is just a brock landers. just spouting their opinion off take away all mikemanns sources and ask him to write 1 page on why he like russia over ukraine and it would suck nobody here knows anything about whats really going on I know not even one Russian elite or business owner is happy with Pootin. His leadership skills are blind and I believe his days are numbered. His bloody war has turned into the worst strategic blunder in modern day history of Russia. P.S. Russia is 30 times the size of Ukraine. Some think think Goliath is dominating. Many at TGF and in America say "give PooTin what he wants". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: I know not even one Russian elite or business owner is happy with Pootin. His leadership skills are blind and I believe his days are numbered. His bloody war has turned into the worst strategic blunder in modern day history of Russia. P.S. Russia is 30 times the size of Ukraine. Some think think Goliath is dominating. Many at TGF and in America say "give PooTin what he wants". BigDumber knows a lot of Russian elites and business owners. LMAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said: BigDumber knows a lot of Russian elites and business owners. LMAO. "America is funding bioweapon labs in Ukraine". Dumb Monkey Dumb Monkey is alway wrong, lying, parroting PooTin or all 3. https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/23/europe/russian-diplomat-resigns-ukraine-war-intl/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MonkeyF0cker Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: "America is funding bioweapon labs in Ukraine". Dumb Monkey Dumb Monkey is alway wrong, lying, parroting PooTin or all 3. Try again, dipshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 10 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said: BigDumber knows a lot of Russian elites and business owners. LMAO. 2 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said: Try again Russian elite https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/23/europe/russian-diplomat-resigns-ukraine-war-intl/index.html "If PooTin or Tucker Fucker aren't reporting it, then it must be false. Fake News". Neo-Nazi Dumb Monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Holy shit! One person resigned!?!?!?!?! LMAO. What a fucking dipshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bigrunner said: His bloody war has turned into the worst strategic blunder in modern day history of Russia. This I agree with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said: Holy shit! One person resigned!?!?!?!?! LMAO. What a fucking dipshit. Yup, it means they obviously have freedom of speech and people can and do dissent. that's supposed to be a good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Just now, WVU said: This I agree with Sure, it's not going the way they envisioned... But, in no way, shape or form is Russia losing. Until the fighting is taking place on Russian soil and Russian buildings start falling, Russia is winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Just now, Jimmy Hoffa said: Sure, it's not going the way they envisioned... But, in no way, shape or form is Russia losing. Until the fighting is taking place on Russian soil and Russian buildings start falling, Russia is winning. define losing? Are they losing this war? of course not. Are they losing world respect? Yes. Are they losing revenue from sale of goods to other countries? Yes. Are they losing lives, equipment, and money in this war? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Just now, WVU said: define losing? Are they losing this war? of course not. Are they losing world respect? Yes. Are they losing revenue from sale of goods to other countries? Yes. Are they losing lives, equipment, and money in this war? Yes. Oil, gas and now food prices are skyrocketing - those are their main products(along with perhaps weapons and minerals). However the impact of sanctions were perceived 2-3 months ago, it's clear their true effects are far less than feared from a russian perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 minute ago, mikeman said: Oil, gas and now food prices are skyrocketing - those are their main products(along with perhaps weapons and minerals). However the impact of sanctions were perceived 2-3 months ago, it's clear their true effects are far less than feared from a russian perspective. I can't disagree but way too early to measure the pain this will cause Russia. These sanctions aren't going to go away anytime soon. What will be the effect in say 5 years? It will be devastating IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 1 minute ago, WVU said: I can't disagree but way too early to measure the pain this will cause Russia. These sanctions aren't going to go away anytime soon. What will be the effect in say 5 years? It will be devastating IMO Right now it appears the war will last for a long time, but if and when it ends so will most of the sanctions, sure nations like us and some in europe would still talk tough and say they're in effect, but the weaker players(who need energy) would go right back to them without doubt. Not to mention when a ceasefire does come one of the terms would prob be an ending of sanctions. italy already proposed something along those lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted May 24, 2022 Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 5 minutes ago, mikeman said: Right now it appears the war will last for a long time, but if and when it ends so will most of the sanctions, sure nations like us and some in europe would still talk tough and say they're in effect, but the weaker players(who need energy) would go right back to them without doubt. Not to mention when a ceasefire does come one of the terms would prob be an ending of sanctions. italy already proposed something along those lines. I edited my post and it disappeared so I'll try again. The weaker players aren't the big buyers. I don't think we will ever see a ceasefire. Russia is in way too deep. The sactions will go on long after the war. They were already sanctioned in weaker form long before this war and it has impacted that country bigly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2022 Just now, WVU said: the weaker players aren't the big buyers. There will be no ceasefire. Russia is in too deep. And these sanctions will continue long after the war. They were already there in weaker form before the war. The ceasefire will come from ukraine after they lose most of the east - could be not that far off if their army continues to collapse, they would propose that to keep russia from taking odessa, which they almost certainly will if they are successful in the donbass. Russia wants the donbass and all of the black sea coast, right now they have maybe 80% of the east and 70% of the coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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