2023 NFL Discussion

[Mike75]

The Titans recently signed WR Deandre Hopkins to a two year deal.

Last season Hopkins had 64 catches, 717 yards, 3 TDs

Hopkins presence on the field will help the Titans immensely offensively because they already have two exciting players who were rookies last year including WR Treylon Burks and speedy TE Chig Okonkwo who runs a 4.34.

Okonkwo led all tight ends with 14.1 yards per reception in 2022, and seven of his 32 catches went for at least 20 yards.

Okonkwo had a rookie tight end record 2.61 yards per route run, which ranked second in the NFL behind only Miami Dolphins star receiver, Tyreek Hill (3.01)

This offseason the Titans drafted RB Tyjae Spears who has good speed, breathtaking agility and instant acceleration out of cuts.

Spears is a dual-threat weapon out of the backfield and a change-of-pace option in the run game.

In Cotton Bowl against USC, Spears dominated with 205 yards and four touchdowns on 17 carries. That's 12.1 yards per carry.

Then of course you have Derrick Henry a record breaking running back who is entering his eighth season.

Henry is 1,665 yards from hitting the 10,000 yard mark in rushing yards.

At QB you have Tannehill who is entering his fifth season with the Titans.

Tannehill has led the Titans to the playoffs in three out of the four years he has been in Tennessee.

The offensive line will take time to gel as a lot of the players who will be together for the first time.

This takes us to the Titans defense.....

The D line consists of Jeffery Simmons,Denico Autry,Naquan Jones and Teair Tart with plenty of backup depth.

Pass rusher Harold Landry is back after being out last year with injury.

Arden Key left division rival Jaguars to sign with Titans in Jax last year Key had 27 tackles, 4.5 sacks, 38 quarterback pressures, five tackles for loss and a fumble recovery. Over the last five weeks of the season, he posted 25 pressures, which ranked second in the league behind Nick Bosa over that time frame.

The Titans ranked first against the run in the NFL last season.

The AFC South division will be a crap shoot and no one should pencil in the Jaguars just yet as taking the division as the Texans in my opinion got a lot better this offseason and will in my personal opinion be a big threat. Indy's hopes rise and fall with rookie QB Anthony Richardson.

Also the Titans are being picked by many media pundits to be one of the worst teams in the NFL, However no one knows a team better than fans of that team. While they very well may struggle some i dont see them being among the worst teams.

I predict that we could actually see some off the wall things happen this season.

Like i said before i think the Texans with all their offseason moves are gonna be better than last year.

It wouldn't be a surprise at all to me to see Tennessee and yes maybe even Houston win the AFC South but i wouldnt be surprised to see Jax win the division either. Also unless Richardson does some MVP type things i think Indy is stuck around .500 or worse. The years Post Luck and Post Manning have not been kind to Indy at all. Now they see what its like when you dont have an MVP at QB.

 

 

 

[Mike75]

I think we could see some off the wall stuff happen this year in division standings.

This could be the year a bunch of bottom feeders become potential division champs.

For instance in AFC South not a lot of love given to Houston BUT they got a new QB ready to step in day one,a good young RB and weapons at WR along with a defense thats gonna be very good Demeco Ryan Texans HC was 49ers defensive coordinator. Texans drafted Will Anderson in first round as well.

Carolina is an NFC South team to watch esp. if QB Bryce Young stays healthy and plays well they have RB Miles Sanders and weapons at WR/TE Jonathan Mingo,Terrace Marshall, DJ Chark, Adam Thielen along with a improved defense

Wouldn't shock me to see Denver with new HC Sean Payton win AFC West, After all the defense is very good all Payton has to do is help Russell Wilson get the offense firing on all cylinders.

NFC North wouldnt shock me to see Chicago win the NFC North esp. if QB Justin Fields has MVP year, he has weapons DJ Moore,Chase Claypool and RB Donta Foreman. The defense will be better they drafted two defensive linemen early and a defensive back for secondary.

AFC East even though stiff competition is here with Buffalo and the Aaron Rodgers led Jets i would say dont give up on Miami. Offensively they have RB Raheem Mostert and WRs Tyreek Hill,Jaylen Waddle and Braxton Berrios and on defense they signed David Long very good LB and have Bradley Chubb another good LB. Two HOF caliber corners Jalen Ramsey and Xavien Howard.

At Fanduel i thought about potentially playing some division longshots to see payouts.

So i went with the Bears to win NFC North,Dolphins to win AFC East,Texans to win AFC South,Panthers to win NFC South and Broncos to win AFC West.....

A 50 dollar wager on these 5 teams to win their divisions will payout 394,650 bucks.

All it takes is one year of topsy turvy crazy things to happen standings wise and some smart knucklehead with spare chase to wager to take home a quarter million if lucky....

[Chi_Archie]

crazy parlay there 

[Mike75]

On 7/22/2023 at 7:11 PM, Chi_Archie said:

crazy parlay there 

Yep definitely,

Was pointing out the payouts.

I used to try and get all eight divisions but now i try and do four or five division winners on parlays as its a bit easier.

[Miley Cyrus]

 

[FairWarning]

I know the market for RB’s sucks now, but teams can’t use Dalvin Cook or Ezekiel Elliot?   The Colts may be a hot mess also if Taylor holds out this year also.

[Mike75]

On 8/10/2023 at 2:53 AM, FairWarning said:

I know the market for RB’s sucks now, but teams can’t use Dalvin Cook or Ezekiel Elliot?   The Colts may be a hot mess also if Taylor holds out this year also.

Ever since Luck retired the Colts have been fucked and their pill addled owner doing crazy shit like spending millions on a whale but cant pay their star RB Taylor and Taylor is fed up and ready to move on demanding a trade.

Even though the RB market is down the Titans still pay Derrick Henry good money because he is a big part of their offense.

Henry is just 1,600 yards from hitting the 10,000 mark for his career.

Yes guys like Dalvin Cook can help offenses a lot.

If Cook wanted to go to Jets he would be big part in opening up their offense BUT it seems Cook wants to play near home which is Miami.

[Mike75]

Was playing around on fanduel today and decided to do some parlays and see how much they might payout....

So i was trying out different amounts to wager on a parlay of NFL division winners....

I was looking at different scenarios and came upon this one....

Jets, Broncos and Steelers to all win their divisions on a 75 dollar parlay pays out 10,400

Thats not bad especially when each NFL season we see at least two or more worst to first division winners

 

[Mike75]

The last season NFL teams won their division:

2022 - Eagles, Chiefs, Bills, 49ers, Bucs, Bengals, Vikings, Jaguars

2021 - Cowboys, Titans, Packers, Rams

2020 - Commanders, Seahawks, Saints, Steelers

2019 - Ravens, Texans, Patriots

2018 - Bears

2017

2016 - Falcons

2015 - Panthers, Cardinals, Broncos

2014 - Colts

2013

2012

2011 - Giants

2009 - Chargers

2008 - Dolphins

2007

2006 

2002 - Jets, Raiders

2001

2000 

1993 - Lions

1992

1991

1990

1989 - Browns

[Mike75]

Titans are celebrating their 25th anniversary 1999-2023

The Titans are in the top ten or on the cusp of the top ten in every single category despite the fact they have not drafted a long term franchise QB since McNair 20 years prior.

Pats,Steelers,Packers,Eagles,Colts,Ravens,Seahawks,Saints,Chiefs,Chargers,Cowboys,Broncos,Ravens all had long term franchise QBs.

The only team i think that could be similar to Tennessee would be Minnesota

How the Titans have fared compared with the rest of the NFL since 1999......

 

Total Victories

1-Pats–300

2-Steelers–256

3-Packers–253

4-Colts–247

5-Ravens–243

6-Eagles–238

7-Seahawks–233

8-Chiefs–226

9-Saints–224

10-Broncos–212

*11-Titans-211

12-Cowboys-210

 

Winning seasons

1-Pats-20

2-Steelers-18

3-Seahawks-17

4-Colts-17

5-Packers-16

6-Eagles-16

7-Ravens-16

8-Chiefs-15

*9-Titans-13

10-Saints-12

11-Cowboys-12

12-Chargers-12

 

Playoff berths

1-Pats-18

2-Packers-16

3-Seahawks-16

4-Colts-16

5-Eagles-15

6-Steelers-14

7-Eagles-14

8-Chiefs-12

9-Saints-10

*10-Titans-10

11-Cowboys-10

12-Vikings-10

 

Seasons with 11 or more victories

1-Pats 16

2-Colts-12

3-Packers-10

4-Steelers-10

5-Chiefs-9

6-Eagles-8

7-Saints-8

*8-Titans-7

9-Ravens-7

10-Seahawks-6

11-Cowboys-6

12-Vikings-6

13-49ers-6

14-Broncos-6

 

[Mike75]

NFL Preseason Week 2

• Browns at Eagles | Aug. 17 (7:30 p.m.)
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• Panthers at Giants | Aug. 18 (7 p.m.)
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• Bengals at Falcons | Aug. 18 (7:30 p.m.)
• Jaguars at Lions  | Aug. 19 (1 p.m.)
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• Dolphins at Texans | Aug. 19 (4 p.m.)
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• Bills at Steelers | Aug. 19 (6:30 p.m.)
• Bears at Colts | Aug. 19 (7 p.m.)
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• Buccaneers at Jets | Aug. 19 (7:30 p.m.)
• Titans at Vikings | Aug. 19 (8 p.m.)
• Patriots at Packers | Aug. 19 (8 p.m.)
• Chiefs at Cardinals | Aug. 19 (8 p.m.)
• Broncos at 49ers | Aug. 19 (8:30 p.m.)
• Raiders at Rams | Aug. 19 (9 p.m.)
• Cowboys at Seahawks | Aug. 19 (10 p.m.)
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• Saints at Chargers | Aug. 20 (7:05 p.m.)
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• Ravens at Commanders | Aug. 21 (8 p.m.)
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[Mike75]

Regardless of what the media pundits think i do have a feeling the Bears are gonna be a big threat to win the NFC North.....

Every team is in the hunt for the division in NFC North in my opinion there is no clear cut runaway fave although Detroit is getting a lot of love i dont fully trust yet in that so they will have to prove it....

Some think Packers wont be the same but i think they will still win games this season and compete for the division...

[Mike75]

Watch out for the Falcons and Panthers they will be right there in the mix with Saints for the division.

In fact i think it will come down to Falcons they have a good roster this year....

[FairWarning]

I’m not wild about the Panthers, I do think ATL and NO fight it out.

[Mike75]

NFL teams years without a playoff win........

 

31 - DET

30

29

28

26

25

24

23

22 - MIA

21

20 - LV

19

18

17 - WAS

16

15

14

13

12 - NYJ, CHI

11

10

 

9

8

7 - CAR, ARI, DEN

6 - PIT

5 - ATL

4 - NE, LAC, IND

3 - TEN, HOU, MIN, SEA

2 - CLE, BAL, GB, NO

1 - LAR, TB

[Mike75]

2 hours ago, FairWarning said:

I’m not wild about the Panthers, I do think ATL and NO fight it out.

I think it will come down to final week between ATL and NO......

[Mike75]

[FairWarning]

2 hours ago, Mike75 said:

I think it will come down to final week between ATL and NO......

Agree.  Winner is looking at a 9-8 record.

[mikeman]

The vikes have a weak schedule, they'll prob go over their 8.5 season win total.

[Mike75]

On 8/18/2023 at 9:53 PM, mikeman said:

The vikes have a weak schedule, they'll prob go over their 8.5 season win total.

Agree with ya....

 

Sept. 10 Tampa Bay, 1 p.m. (CBS)

Sept. 14 at Philadelphia (Thu), 8:15 p.m. (Prime Video)

Sept. 24 L.A. Chargers, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Oct. 1 at Carolina, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Oct. 8 Kansas City, 4:25 p.m. (CBS)

Oct. 15 at Chicago, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Oct. 23 San Francisco (Mon), 8:15 p.m. (ESPN)

Oct. 29 at Green Bay, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Nov. 5 at Atlanta, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Nov. 12 New Orleans, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Nov. 19 at Denver, 8:20 p.m. (NBC)

Nov. 27 Chicago (Mon), 8:15 p.m. (ESPN)

Dec. 3 BYE

Dec. 10 at Las Vegas, 4:05 p.m. (FOX)

Dec. 16 at Cincinnati (Sat), TBD

Dec. 24 Detroit, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Dec. 31 Green Bay, 8:20 p.m. (NBC)

Jan. 6/7 at Detroit, TBD

 

[mikeman]

12 minutes ago, Mike75 said:

Agree with ya....

 

Sept. 10 Tampa Bay, 1 p.m. (CBS)

Sept. 14 at Philadelphia (Thu), 8:15 p.m. (Prime Video)

Sept. 24 L.A. Chargers, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Oct. 1 at Carolina, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Oct. 8 Kansas City, 4:25 p.m. (CBS)

Oct. 15 at Chicago, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Oct. 23 San Francisco (Mon), 8:15 p.m. (ESPN)

Oct. 29 at Green Bay, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Nov. 5 at Atlanta, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Nov. 12 New Orleans, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Nov. 19 at Denver, 8:20 p.m. (NBC)

Nov. 27 Chicago (Mon), 8:15 p.m. (ESPN)

Dec. 3 BYE

Dec. 10 at Las Vegas, 4:05 p.m. (FOX)

Dec. 16 at Cincinnati (Sat), TBD

Dec. 24 Detroit, 1 p.m. (FOX)

Dec. 31 Green Bay, 8:20 p.m. (NBC)

Jan. 6/7 at Detroit, TBD

 

Yup, that stretch from oct 29th, Green bay to the raiders is all weak teams and winnable games, even if the vikes aren't that good.

[Mike75]

2023 NFL win totals, division, Super Bowl odds

Team	Win Total	Over	Under		Win Division	Win Conference	Win Super Bowl
Kansas City Chiefs	11.5	-145	+125		-160	+350	+600
Cincinnati Bengals	11.5	+105	-125		+125	+500	+1000
Philadelphia Eagles	11.5	+110	-130		-105	+320	+750
San Francisco 49ers	10.5	-150	+130		-175	+350	+850
Buffalo Bills	10.5	-130	+110		+125	+475	+900
Jacksonville Jaguars	10	-110	-110		-185	+1300	+2500
Dallas Cowboys	9.5	-170	+145		+165	+650	+1500
Baltimore Ravens	9.5	-165	+140		+275	+1200	+2000
New York Jets	9.5	-135	+115		+250	+900	+1600
Detroit Lions	9.5	-135	+115		+120	+1000	+2500
Los Angeles Chargers	9.5	-130	+110		+325	+1300	+2500
Miami Dolphins	9.5	-110	-110		+300	+1200	+2500
New Orleans Saints	9.5	+120	-140		+120	+1400	+3500
Cleveland Browns	9.5	+125	-145		+380	+2000	+3500
Pittsburgh Steelers	9	-115	-105		+500	+3500	+6000
Seattle Seahawks	9	-105	-115		+210	+1600	+4000
Minnesota Vikings	8.5	-140	+120		+300	+1600	+4000
Atlanta Falcons	8.5	-130	+110		+240	+3000	+7000
Denver Broncos	8.5	-115	-105		+475	+2500	+4000
Chicago Bears	7.5	-125	+105		+400	+2200	+5000
Green Bay Packers	7.5	-120	+100		+420	+2200	+5000
Carolina Panthers	7.5	-120	+100		+340	+3000	+7000
New York Giants	7.5	-110	-110		+700	+1600	+4000
New England Patriots	7.5	+100	-120		+800	+3500	+6000
Tennessee Titans	7.5	+110	-130		+325	+6000	+10000
Las Vegas Raiders	7.5	+170	-190		+1500	+2800	+4500
Indianapolis Colts	6.5	-125	+105		+600	+8000	+12500
Washington Commanders	6.5	-110	-120		+1300	+4000	+8000
Los Angeles Rams	6.5	+100	-120		+850	+3000	+7000
Tampa Bay Buccaneers	6.5	+120	-140		+800	+4000	+8000
Houston Texans	6.5	+120	-140		+950	+10000	+20000
Arizona Cardinals	4.5	-115	-105		+2700	+10000	+20000

[Mike75]

Over on these.....Tennessee,Minnesota,Houston,Chicago,Baltimore

Under on Tampa Bay,Arizona,Cincy,Jacksonville,Indy

 

For the AFC South i guarantee you will see an improved Houston team that i think will be better than Indy, As for Indy i think Richardson will be really good one game and really bad others and the Colts will win around 6 games if that. The Jaguars barely beat a Titans team on their third string QB and half the team on IR for the division. Titans will not be a bad team this year if they stay healthy. If Tennessee stays healthy i predict they will be playing for the division in the last game of the season.

In the NFC South i think that division will come down to Atlanta and New Orleans.

The NFC East will be Dallas and Philly and i lean toward Dallas....

The NFC North could be anyones division i dont fully trust Detroit and i do think Chicago could be the team that takes that division.

The NFC West will be 49ers and Seahawks

The AFC East could come down to the Bills,Jets and Dolphins and i want to say the Jets win it but we shall see...

AFC North i think anyones division again and i think Baltimore and Cincy could be last two standing but wont rule out Pitt or Cleveland.

AFC West i could see KC and Denver in the end for the division.

 

 

[Mike75]

About to watch the Patriots at Titans

No Will Levis he is nursing an injury which is BS

Tannehill could get a couple series

Pats starting QB wont play if i'm correct.

[Mike75]

I expect Detroit/KC to be a high scoring game and could go either way but I would love to see the lions win to be honest. Kinda sick of seeing Mahomes and the chiefs winning all the damn time.