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Yeah the ss # thing will scare most hard core whores away from hitting this multiple times. I can dust off my old client files and get 2-3 dozen in this without too much trouble. These types of deals are few and far between lately so might as well go big or not at all.

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If you are betting big favorites to show (or place in short fields) you MUST check to see that the minimum payoff is 2.20 and not 2.10. I think West Virginia and Indiana are the only places doing 2.20.

Will make a big difference in your results.

 

Odds-on favorites to show have been basically a breakeven bet in the past. I haven't seen any recent stats. Bet place in short fields with no show betting.

 

Bet small amounts, to get as many bets as possible, on odds-on horses to show at one of the 2.20 minimum tracks should be breakeven.

 

 

 

 

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If you are betting big favorites to show (or place in short fields) you MUST check to see that the minimum payoff is 2.20 and not 2.10. I think West Virginia and Indiana are the only places doing 2.20.

Will make a big difference in your results.

 

Odds-on favorites to show have been basically a breakeven bet in the past. I haven't seen any recent stats. Bet place in short fields with no show betting.

 

Bet small amounts, to get as many bets as possible, on odds-on horses to show at one of the 2.20 minimum tracks should be breakeven.

 

 

 

Breakeven bets on horses? Really?

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Yep, odds-on favorites to show (only) going back many years per legit academic researchers. Ever heard of Dr. Z horse betting system?

 

 

it a small losing proposition now 20 years ago it was even or even a tiny +ROI.

 

with all the pool info, and computer plays looking for tiny overlays this disappeared.

 

if you only focus ont he 2.20 minimum tracks its obviously not bad.

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William Ziemba and Donald Hausch. Both academics.

 

They have long term stats. Also some other academic types whose names I don't remember. I gave up on horses many years ago and got rid of my books.

 

You can find explanations on the internet of what they are doing. You should read the book. I think you will find their analysis interesting. It doesn't work very well. Probably because there are too many people trying it. Also he used the odds after the race was over. You have to bet 2-3 minutes before post and the final odds are different from the time you bet.

 

Get 2.20 as minimum payoff and bet odds-on to show. You will at most be betting at -1 or -2 percent loss.

 

 

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Anyone can make an easy $700 on this offer. Average takeout for win and place bets is 15-18% or so ( NY tracks are just 14% !!!). I'd take the morning line favorite for $10W & $10P. Make 50 bets like this to earn your $1000 credit. Expect to lose $150 doing so. I believe the $1000 credit you get has to be rolled over once too, so just repeat the same process. Expect to lose another $150 and end up with $700 profit.

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Anyone can make an easy $700 on this offer. Average takeout for win and place bets is 15-18% or so ( NY tracks are just 14% !!!). I'd take the morning line favorite for $10W & $10P. Make 50 bets like this to earn your $1000 credit. Expect to lose $150 doing so. I believe the $1000 credit you get has to be rolled over once too' date=' so just repeat the same process. Expect to lose another $150 and end up with $700 profit.[/quote']

 

 

This is what I'm talking about.

Even if you have terrible variance what is the worst one might expect? Breakeven?

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might as well stick this in this thread too. Thanks again August West for posting this deal at EOG.

 

 

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