WVU Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yeah the ss # thing will scare most hard core whores away from hitting this multiple times. I can dust off my old client files and get 2-3 dozen in this without too much trouble. These types of deals are few and far between lately so might as well go big or not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70kgman Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 How concerned should I be about giving a SSN to this site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeinkeToWarrick Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I would love to hear/read 2w2p2s's opinion on the best way to tackle this for a guy that isn't willing to gamble a lot on a single race (try's bride-jumper strategy), ie ME. I'm definitely going to give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbabble Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 If you are betting big favorites to show (or place in short fields) you MUST check to see that the minimum payoff is 2.20 and not 2.10. I think West Virginia and Indiana are the only places doing 2.20. Will make a big difference in your results. Odds-on favorites to show have been basically a breakeven bet in the past. I haven't seen any recent stats. Bet place in short fields with no show betting. Bet small amounts, to get as many bets as possible, on odds-on horses to show at one of the 2.20 minimum tracks should be breakeven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August West Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 I would love to hear/read 2w2p2s's opinion on the best way to tackle this for a guy that isn't willing to gamble a lot on a single race (try's bride-jumper strategy), ie ME. I'm definitely going to give it a try. same here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted September 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 If you are betting big favorites to show (or place in short fields) you MUST check to see that the minimum payoff is 2.20 and not 2.10. I think West Virginia and Indiana are the only places doing 2.20. Will make a big difference in your results. Odds-on favorites to show have been basically a breakeven bet in the past. I haven't seen any recent stats. Bet place in short fields with no show betting. Bet small amounts, to get as many bets as possible, on odds-on horses to show at one of the 2.20 minimum tracks should be breakeven. Breakeven bets on horses? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbabble Posted September 9, 2014 Report Share Posted September 9, 2014 Yep, odds-on favorites to show (only) going back many years per legit academic researchers. Ever heard of Dr. Z horse betting system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I don't know much at all about horses but I have heard of Dr Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blow Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 "I;m not afraid to give out my wife's SSN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trytrytry Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 How concerned should I be about giving a SSN to this site? no problem at all to give that info to this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Try, so only to WIN on second favorite horse? Or Win / place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trytrytry Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yep, odds-on favorites to show (only) going back many years per legit academic researchers. Ever heard of Dr. Z horse betting system? it a small losing proposition now 20 years ago it was even or even a tiny +ROI. with all the pool info, and computer plays looking for tiny overlays this disappeared. if you only focus ont he 2.20 minimum tracks its obviously not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trytrytry Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 same here will be interesting to see what he suggests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberbabble Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 William Ziemba and Donald Hausch. Both academics. They have long term stats. Also some other academic types whose names I don't remember. I gave up on horses many years ago and got rid of my books. You can find explanations on the internet of what they are doing. You should read the book. I think you will find their analysis interesting. It doesn't work very well. Probably because there are too many people trying it. Also he used the odds after the race was over. You have to bet 2-3 minutes before post and the final odds are different from the time you bet. Get 2.20 as minimum payoff and bet odds-on to show. You will at most be betting at -1 or -2 percent loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Anyone can make an easy $700 on this offer. Average takeout for win and place bets is 15-18% or so ( NY tracks are just 14% !!!). I'd take the morning line favorite for $10W & $10P. Make 50 bets like this to earn your $1000 credit. Expect to lose $150 doing so. I believe the $1000 credit you get has to be rolled over once too, so just repeat the same process. Expect to lose another $150 and end up with $700 profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 How concerned should I be about giving a SSN to this site?Zero concern, unless you want to evade income tax. They need your SSN to report net winnings to the Fed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I'm impressed with xpress bet . Smooth site, simple signup and deposit even simpler. It's funny they allow degenerate legal horse betting, but not poker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yep, odds-on favorites to show (only) going back many years per legit academic researchers. Ever heard of Dr. Z horse betting system? Probably one of the reasons show betting doesn't count towards this promo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inkwell77 Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 Anyone can make an easy $700 on this offer. Average takeout for win and place bets is 15-18% or so ( NY tracks are just 14% !!!). I'd take the morning line favorite for $10W & $10P. Make 50 bets like this to earn your $1000 credit. Expect to lose $150 doing so. I believe the $1000 credit you get has to be rolled over once too' date=' so just repeat the same process. Expect to lose another $150 and end up with $700 profit.[/quote'] This is what I'm talking about. Even if you have terrible variance what is the worst one might expect? Breakeven? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeinkeToWarrick Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I've been wasting my time and dollars all night betting harness racing and now I'm on to Australia lol. Too bad I'm not drunk or these aren't big tracks or I'd actually make some bets and get through this rollover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 This is one of the best bonus promos I've seen in a while. Looking forward to 2W2P2S posting his thoughts. Have enough family members that I should do pretty well on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I deposited a couple hundred and bet the $1,000 in an hour. Got $50 and change sitting in account. Waiting for bonus tomorrow. I got impatient doing $5 WP on all 4-5/1 dogs and hit some big favs for place at $50 Anyone else finish theirs? Is $1,000 put directly into account or have to request Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted September 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 might as well stick this in this thread too. Thanks again August West for posting this deal at EOG. [TABLE=width: 698] [TR] [TD]Alabama[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Alaska[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Arizona[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Arkansas[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]California[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Colorado[/TD] [TD]No Arapahoe.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Connecticut[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Delaware[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]District of Columbia[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Florida[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Georgia[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Hawaii[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Idaho[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Illinois[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Indiana[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Iowa[/TD] [TD]No Prairie Meadows.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Kansas[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Kentucky[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Louisiana[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Maine[/TD] [TD]No Bangor Raceway or Scarborough Downs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Maryland[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Massachusetts[/TD] [TD]Alberta Downs, Charlottetown, DuQuoin State Fair, Fraser, Georgian Downs, Grand River, Illinois State Fair, Japan Racing, Rideau Carleton, Sandy Downs, Sports Creek, Summerside, Sweetwater, Turf Paradise[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Michigan[/TD] [TD]No Hazel Park, Northville Downs, or Sports Creek Raceway.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Minnesota[/TD] [TD]No Canterbury or Running Aces.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Mississippi[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Missouri[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Montana[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nebraska[/TD] [TD]Restricted from all UK tracks.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Nevada[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]New Hampshire[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]New Jersey[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]New Mexico[/TD] [TD]No Albuquerque, Ruidoso Downs, Sam Houston, Sunland Park, Sunray Park and Zia Park.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]New York[/TD] [TD]No video for Finger Lakes.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]North Carolina[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]North Dakota[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Ohio[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oklahoma[/TD] [TD]No Fair Meadows, Remington Park, Will Rogers Downs.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Oregon[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Pennsylvania[/TD] [TD]Limited to Thoroughbred or Harness Meets only. Not available: Ajax Downs, Albuquerque, Arapahoe, Assiniboia, Beulah, California Racing Fairs, Canterbury, Delta Downs, Fair Meadows, Fairmount, Fresno Cal Fair, Hazel Park, Hialeah Park, Indiana Downs, Los Alamitos, Louisiana Downs, Northlands TB, Portland Meadows, Remington, Retama Park, Ruidoso Downs, Ruidoso 2, Sam Houston, Sandy Downs, Stockton, Sunland Park, Sunray Park, Sweetwater, Turf Paradise, or Zia Park. Please Note: Residents located within 35 miles of Parx, Penn National, Pocono Downs, Harrahs Philly, or Presque Isle Downs are prohibited from opening Xpressbet accounts.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Puerto Rico[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Rhode Island[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]South Carolina[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]South Dakota[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Tennessee[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Texas[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]US Virgin Islands[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Utah[/TD] [TD]No Account Wagering[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Vermont[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Virginia[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Washington[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]West Virginia[/TD] [TD]No Charles Town or Mountaineer.[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Wisconsin[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Wyoming[/TD] [TD]No Restrictions[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 TY, maybe if Kinger agrees I could PM him the information and anyone interested could PM him and he'll respond back. I'll post here when it's OK to PM Kinger. This is only if he agrees, and if it's a hassle for him I'll just post it in this thread. No hassle at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted September 10, 2014 Report Share Posted September 10, 2014 I had an account already, but was able to open another account under my wife's name. This is just too good to pass up. Thanks to WVU for bringing this info to TGF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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