Enfuego

Thread is useless without pics.

Good. The PAC-12 is better when they're good.

ASU gonna be good this year?

Did you read my post? Snitch about what? I'm not a mod there and don't even know who is these days. I don't talk to those guys nor do I care what people post or what? I assume one of the dudes on duty read your post last night and moved it somewhere else? Is taking your avatar supposed to be a punishment or something? Hell, I don't know. I think you're a good dude. Just know if you advertise there on the board for TGF, they are going to move the post or ban you. Been that way since I joined I think.

Interesting

What is this supposed to mean? I'm not friends or associates with BAS. Can you go over right now and sign in?

I'm not defending him but this isn't how I remember it going down. Thought you left after your ultimatum wasn't met?

Being a liberal is more of a disease than being a drunk.

Here's the only fight card you should be following tonight men: Cain, Hunt, Tate, Silva and Edgar

I'm not confused in the least bit. TH is doing a bad job of articulating his position. I agree with all you're saying. My only point is stop and frisk, as allowed by Terry v Ohio has never been discontinued. The NYPD took it too far with their spinoff policy of Terry v Ohio hence the reason it was ruled unconstitutional which it should've been.

And I'll take this post as your acknowledgement that stop and frisk, which has been in place since the founding of our nation, has never been rule unconstitutional in NYC at any time. You're just confused.

Please provide a link to the previous policy you speak of.

So, if stop and frisk in NEW YORK was ruled unconstitutional because it was discriminatory (your words) there should be no current stop and frisk activities taking place right now correct? There were zero last month? These are your words not mine.

Jesus fucking Christ. I can't take it any longer. You are not educated on how to read law or law decisions and just can't comprehend. Stop and Frisk based on race was ruled on as unconstitutional which it should be but stop and frisk as described under the 4th Amendment has never changed. The judge's decision pushed the NYPD to relook at how they stop and frisk people but did not stop and frisk and never will unless our Constitution is changed. You stated and your original post long ago stop and frisk was ruled unconstitutional. That's not true. Stopping and frisking based on race is the issue not stop and frisk. Do you understand now the difference? Is it clear to you?

So, what you're saying is you're just confused then. The 4th Amendment has always allowed for stop and frisk even in NY. What happened was a person filed a lawsuit saying stop and frisk is unconstitutional based on race so it's a clarification of an existing statute that''s never changed. Do you understand now? Stop and frisk, as allowed under the 4th Amendment, has never been implemented or rescinded in NYC following implementation of the 4th Amendment.