milwaukee mike Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 How the total in the TCU-Kstate is only 57 is baffling' date=' TCU may very well put up 58+ pts themselves vs KSU[/quote'] if you can still get over 57 i would take it! lowest i see is 57.5, weather looks great except a bit windy, i agree that total is too low Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 only one of these teams makes it. no way both can get in auburn alabama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Mich St NOT a favorite to run the table, if they do though, they are ranked above TCU by the committee, which may still not be top four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 if you can still get over 57 i would take it! lowest i see is 57.5, weather looks great except a bit windy, i agree that total is too low It's not enough of an edge to beat the market laying -110.......for the 1'839th time, this is all a numbers game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Here are the FACTS MSU is a mere two spots behind TCU in the committee poll right now....... TCU plays four games against KSU, Kansas, Iowa State, and Texas MSU plays FIVE games against Ohio State, Maryland, Rutgers, Penn State, and probably Nebraska in conference title game. If both win out, MSU receives the nod by the committee over TCU.......this is but one of many bad scenarios for TCU. Have to disagree, i cant see any way the committee has MSU make that jump with both winning out unless they are otherworldly impressive in all their games and TCU squeaks out ugly wins TCU win vs Kansas St will be seen as way more impressive than Mich St beating Ohio St. Hell, K State is ranked higher than Michigan St currently so K State winning out very well could get them into the playoffs also Kansas/Iowa St/Texas isn't that different from Maryland/Rutgers/Penn State. Neither trio of games would result in impressive wins on a resume. So IDK what you see that will have Mich St making the jump. TCU already ahead, arguably has the toughest matchup remaining on either of their schedules and would win in the eyes of most a tougher conference. I can possibly see TCU getting left out for Fla St, Oregon and two SEC teams, but hard to envision a scenario where a big 10 team makes the playoffs. They will need tons to go their way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Have to disagree, i cant see any way the committee has MSU make that jump with both winning out unless they are otherworldly impressive in all their games and TCU squeaks out ugly wins TCU win vs Kansas St will be seen as way more impressive than Mich St beating Ohio St. Hell, K State is ranked higher than Michigan St currently so K State winning out very well could get them into the playoffs also Kansas/Iowa St/Texas isn't that different from Maryland/Rutgers/Penn State. Neither trio of games would result in impressive wins on a resume. So IDK what you see that will have Mich St making the jump. TCU already ahead, arguably has the toughest matchup remaining on either of their schedules and would win in the eyes of most a tougher conference. I can possibly see TCU getting left out for Fla St, Oregon and two SEC teams, but hard to envision a scenario where a big 10 team makes the playoffs. They will need tons to go their way What about the potential of MSU beating a probable top ten team in Nebraska in the conference title game, you keep omitting this in your equations. MSU runs the table they are more worthy of TCU by the committee, even if they play Iowa in the Big Ten title game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuonzo Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Another loss and Iowa will be eliminated' date=' probably this week at Minnesota.[/quote'] Playoffs?? Iowa could win rest of their games by 40 and they won't make playoffs . Come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 It's not enough of an edge to beat the market laying -110.......for the 1'839th time, this is all a numbers game. we'll agree to disagree, i think it's a 60% edge even at 58, what if it closes at 60/61.,. only 2 of kansas st's games out of 8 have gone under 58 and tcu has scored 30+ in every single game this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 we'll agree to disagree, i think it's a 60% edge even at 58, what if it closes at 60/61.,. only 2 of kansas st's games out of 8 have gone under 58 and tcu has scored 30+ in every single game this season True As stated, like the over........K-State defense is Swiss cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 TCU will 100% be in the playoffs if they win out.I think they even leap frog Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 TCU will 100% be in the playoffs if they win out.I think they even leap frog Oregon Just noticed, PlayoffStatus gives TCU a 2% chance of making the playoffs if they win out......LOLOL.....thought my personal 29% figure was a tad high, LOL. Mike, ship those pizza pts brother!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Just noticed, PlayoffStatus gives TCU a 2% chance of making the playoffs if they win out......LOLOL.....thought my personal 29% figure was a tad high, LOL. Mike, ship those pizza pts brother!!! 2% yeah ok. that's why they are around 10-1 to win the national championship that site's numbers are so messed up, they have ucla as 8% to get in the playoff with 3 losses, and auburn 87% with 2 losses :smiley-laughing001: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 here you go fishhead, max bet the NO with every dollar and every buddy you can find. how can they have a 6% chance of winning the national championship when they only have a 2% chance of getting in the playoff? EASY MONEY [TABLE=class: lines, border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0, width: 625] [TR=class: linesRow] [TD]Sat 11/8[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]28011 TCU wins NCAA Champ[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]+900 [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: linesRowBot] [TD]12:00PM[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]28012 Field wins NCAA Championship[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]-1610 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 TCU will 100% be in the playoffs if they win out.I think they even leap frog Oregon egg zact lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The 2% is not my number........Mike, hope for Kstate to upset TCU, then buy your family pizza with the pts saved, LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 egg zact lee If MSU runs the table, are both TCU and MSU in your final four then?????......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 The 2% is not my number........Mike' date=' hope for Kstate to upset TCU, then buy your family pizza with the pts saved, LOL[/quote'] even at your 29% number, let's say 70% chance of winning out, that would put tcu's chances of getting in the playoffs at 20% or so. so no juice line of 12-1 (8% winning it all) implies that if tcu gets in the playoff, they have a 40% chance of winning it. not even close to right, so either the market is way off or your 29% is way off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 MSU, Ohio State, and Nebraska all control their destiny more than TCU......BUT, none of these three may not run the table, TCU better hope not. Shit final 3 games and no conference title game will have the Frogs buried in muddled waters at crunch time in most cased scenarios....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 TCU's final three opponents have a combined record of 8-17......LOL......and no conference title game.....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 MSU, Ohio State, and Nebraska all control their destiny more than TCU......BUT, none of these three may not run the table, TCU better hope not. Shit final 3 games and no conference title game will have the Frogs buried in muddled waters at crunch time in most cased scenarios....... agree that it's muddy waters at the end but the committee might have a very hard time dropping someone out of the top 4 just because they played a cupcake or had a bye. it will be interesting to say the least what happens at the end, once you're in the 4 horsemen are you in until playing yourself out? or does someone sneak in the back door... i think it's like the NWO, once you're in the top 4 it's 4 LIFE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 MSU, Ohio State, and Nebraska all control their destiny more than TCU......BUT, none of these three may not run the table, TCU better hope not. Shit final 3 games and no conference title game will have the Frogs buried in muddled waters at crunch time in most cased scenarios....... michigan state now with a loss nebraska is 6 point underdog at wisconsin auburn is an underdog at georgia, florida st barely favored at miami, miss st/bama playing each other, 3 of the top 4 could easily lose on saturday... AND YET PLAYOFF STATUS REDUCES THE ODDS OF TCU MAKING IT DOWN TO 1% :smiley-laughing001: i guess 5dimes doesn't know what they're doing... [TABLE=class: lines, border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0, width: 926] [TR=class: linesRow] [TD]Sat 11/15[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]28007 TCU wins NCAA Champ[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] +700 [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: linesRowBot] [TD]12:00PM[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]28008 Field wins NCAA Championship[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] -1100 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 You have to hope TCU to be upset in one of their 3 remaining games to save 500 pizza points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 You have to hope TCU to be upset in one of their 3 remaining games to save 500 pizza points. i'm thinking the same thing about you having to hope for that! want to double it to 1000? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 i'm thinking the same thing about you having to hope for that! want to double it to 1000? disregard that offer, i forgot that i chose 500 because that's about what you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted November 11, 2014 Report Share Posted November 11, 2014 michigan state now with a loss nebraska is 6 point underdog at wisconsin auburn is an underdog at georgia, florida st barely favored at miami, miss st/bama playing each other, 3 of the top 4 could easily lose on saturday... AND YET PLAYOFF STATUS REDUCES THE ODDS OF TCU MAKING IT DOWN TO 1% :smiley-laughing001: i guess 5dimes doesn't know what they're doing... [TABLE=class: lines, border: 0, cellpadding: 0, cellspacing: 0, width: 926] [TR=class: linesRow] [TD]Sat 11/15[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]28007 TCU wins NCAA Champ[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] +700 [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: linesRowBot] [TD]12:00PM[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]28008 Field wins NCAA Championship[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD] -1100 [/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Auburn wont be in the top 4 Top four will be Miss St, FSU, Bama and Oregon. Oregon should win out in the reg season, they seem like the safest bet to make the playoffs right now TCU needs to be cheering hard for Miss St and/or Miami Fla this weekend. They shouldn't leap Miss St even if Miss St loses as their 1 loss resume will be easily superior to TCU's. If Miss St wins though it all but knocks Bama out of the picture and makes room for TCU as #4. Also think TCU would get in before Fla St if both have one loss so miami victory should put them in the top 4 going forward A lot more excitement this year though, playoff format has helped college football big time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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