Guest ChrisHarvard Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Not sure why you would go way the heck up to N LV anyways. Were you trying to score an 8 ball or what? Are you kidding me? KFC, Aliante. Good grief, square move. And I used to hang out at the Western when it re-opened..99c beers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 They have an app. Welcome to 2015. They also have parlay cards. Welcome to 1970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChrisHarvard Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hey don't get ticked off. I'm just trying to give you advice. It's not worth the trek, is all. I was grinding on those streets professionally at only 22 years old... I wouldn't say I'm a "prodigy"...I certainly made a go at it. It's much more than a lot of people can say. I did it for a little less than a year, just wasn't mature enough for the grind. I didn't fail, I walked with roughly the same money in my pocket I started, 10 pounds heavier and a bit less hair. I had only a few years under my belt. I didn't know Fish, Durito, or you at the time. I would have called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 You should be taking advice rather than giving it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChrisHarvard Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'd like to chat when you're in your right mind, m0nkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 You should be taking advice rather than giving it. we could all take more advice than we give even the best of us are missing 99% of the advantages in this world... and if we're making a ton of money it still might not be the best lifestyle choice best advice i can give is to have kids that love you. if someone can get to that point without being married, even better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 The sad thing is they ridded selves of +EV football contest.......and them employing an app was a negative for self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 we could all take more advice than we give even the best of us are missing 99% of the advantages in this world... and if we're making a ton of money it still might not be the best lifestyle choice best advice i can give is to have kids that love you. if someone can get to that point without being married, even better true. but chris is a borderline full blown retard that may or may not have ever been to las vegas trying to give advice to a resident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 true. but chris is a borderline full blown retard that may or may not have ever been to las vegas trying to give advice to a resident. yeah if monkey went to aliante, i can guess there is a good reason... i have talked to a couple people that liked their sportsbook lines in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I was grinding on those streets professionally at only 22 years old... I don't think that is what it is called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Aliante had lots of great lines available the past few years, not near as much now with the APP.......and certainly not as easy to snare those good lines that remain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Hey don't get ticked off. I'm just trying to give you advice. It's not worth the trek, is all. I was grinding on those streets professionally at only 22 years old... I wouldn't say I'm a "prodigy"...I certainly made a go at it. It's much more than a lot of people can say. I did it for a little less than a year, just wasn't mature enough for the grind. I didn't fail, I walked with roughly the same money in my pocket I started, 10 pounds heavier and a bit less hair. I had only a few years under my belt. I didn't know Fish, Durito, or you at the time. I would have called. As far as worth the trek, probably depends on the day and/or time of the week.....and if one can kill other birds there at the same time. Personally, was fortunate to have a friend living next to Aliante in the pre-app days(still do), so a quick text and he was able to get bets in there most of the time for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 As far as worth the trek, probably depends on the day and/or time of the week.....and if one can kill other birds there at the same time. Personally, was fortunate to have a friend living next to Aliante in the pre-app days(still do), so a quick text and he was able to get bets in there most of the time for me. your friend sounds more like a useful idiot than a friend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 He was compensated with cash.......and still is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 He was compensated with cash.......and still is. true, but very quickly (if he wasn't a useful idiot) he should realize that there is more value to the bets than what you are paying him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealSlimShady Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Aliante had lots of great lines available the past few years, not near as much now with the APP.......and certainly not as easy to snare those good lines that remain. Basically apps made most Vegas books be much more in line with the market now...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Basically apps made most Vegas books be much more in line with the market now...... so is most of the value of betting sports in vegas gone? this is a serious question, still considering whether or not to move there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 I was grinding on those streets professionally at only 22 years old... I don't think that is what it is called. Could be. PS: I only knew this because its what I did in Oct 2014 - my last job in northern Saskatchewan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 so is most of the value of betting sports in vegas gone? this is a serious question, still considering whether or not to move there Gone? No. Reduced? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Aliante won't take my bets anyway. So, I won't be going up there any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 Aliante won't take my bets anyway. So, I won't be going up there any more. are limits pretty much lower on the apps as they are at the counters in vegas? don't know much about the apps other than hearing people get booted after they're up 3k which wouldn't happen at a counter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 TGF Poster Voodoos rundown from Gamblingwithanedge.com....... Football 2016 HomeAdvantage Play Advice for Players Comps & Promos Gambling Online Sports betting Advanced Strategy2016 Nevada Mobile Betting Rundown2016 Nevada Mobile Betting Rundown August 13, 2016 8 Comments Written by FrankBGoing into the 2016 football season Nevada will have 12 sports book operations offering mobile betting. That’s pretty good considering there are just 20 individual sports book operators in the state (soon to be 19 when Aliante converts to Coast) and a few of those are probably too small to justify having a betting app. Of the remaining sports books, the Harrahs/Caesars group is by far the largest one to not have a mobile betting presence. The other without an app that would probably benefit the most from offering one is Stratosphere, but they rarely make the smart move in operations there so the expectation is they’ll remain walk-in only. Due to their opinionated lines, the Golden Nugget would probably be the most welcomed by serious bettors if they added mobile betting. There’s a dozen right now though so let’s have a look at them. The average bettor won’t want to commit the bankroll nor have the inclination to deposit money with all 12 sports books offering mobile betting. The majority will want to pick and choose a handful at most to post up with, so here’s some basic info on app betting and some specifics on each individual app and what they offer. DEVICES Nevada mobile betting applications all use GPS tracking to locate bettors and confirm that they’re within state lines at the time they make a bet. Turns out the device you have and the operating system it runs on can make a difference as to whether you will get a bet accepted when near a border. Many gaming towns are located very close to a state line for obvious reasons (Laughlin, Mesquite, South Lake Tahoe, Primm, Wendover, etc). Getting a bet approved at these locations can be an issue, but having the right set up can help. Apple and Android operate a little differently when it comes to locating you. I’ll skip all the technical jargon like GLONASS, orbital plane inclination, and trilateration equations and just cut to the chase: Most Android phones work better than Apple devices as far as pinpointing your location for betting purposes. Recently, while located less than 500 feet from the NV/CA state line, I did a side by side comparison of an Apple iPhone 6 vs a Samsung Galaxy S5. The Android phone was able to make bets on all apps except for CGT and the iPhone could make bets only on the MGM app. If considering getting a cheap Android phone for betting make sure it’s LTE capable or you’ll have problems with location permissions. Older devices can have issues, too. LTE/WIFI/BLUETOOTH LTE stands for Long Term Evolution and it’s more of a capability than an achieved speed. Regardless, the way the mobile apps work they require that capability, otherwise you may get a message stating that the GPS functionality of your phone is inadequate. Just make sure your device has LTE capability and you should be fine. There are four types of software in use for mobile betting and three of them work whether you have WIFI turned on or not. The Miomni software that runs seven of the twelve apps requires that WIFI and Bluetooth be turned off in order to log-in so you will have to make sure those features are disabled. All the apps prohibit another device being connected to the one with the app installed so no power sources, screen mirrors or other connections are allowed. Unplug everything. COMPS Coast, Atlantis, Peppermill, Aliante, and Station all claim to offer comp credit to mobile bettors. What you get from each can be a little mysterious since none show what you’ve earned directly on the app. It’s either inquire at the sports book or the credit gets added to your overall casino balance. It’s clear from observation over the last calendar year though that Atlantis and Peppermill comp at the best rate. Westgate has been rumored to be adding the earning of comp credit to the app but it hasn’t happened yet.* MIOMNI SOFTWARE The Miomni software is the most prevalent. It runs seven of the twelve available apps and has a few features which can make your betting experience more user friendly. The first is the ability to pre-set your default bet amount and your minimum and maximum bets. Go to settings to find these. Make sure you set the max bet first as it won’t allow you to set the min above the max even while in settings. The slider setting should be turned on so it can define the range of bet sizes you established in the min and max settings The slider will start at your min setting and top out at your max. Lastly, set the bet increment to what you feel comfortable with. For most who bet moneyline sports like baseball the $1 increment will make the most sense. I’ve tried using the $10 increment but that will make for odd bet amounts if the price on a bet doesn’t end in a zero. The other VERY useful feature you’ll want enabled is Expand Sports Lists. What this does when turned on is show the full bet available including the price on each side when you click on a category. If this is not enabled then you’ll have to click each game individually to see the line which is a major pain. Turn Expand Sports Lists on and you’ll see all the lines for a category without having to click on each game separately. Lastly, when you want to make a bet you simply add it to your bet page where it will sit with any other bets you choose until you’re ready to submit your wagers. From the bet page you can create parlays, teasers, etc. from your list of saved bets. The Miomni software is the most user friendly once logged in but is also the strictest as far as allowing you to log in. As already noted, everything must be unplugged from your device, WIFI and Bluetooth must be turned off and you must be within Nevada state lines to log in. Being within state lines to log in is required by the Miomni software and the CGT software. The MGM app along with the William Hill-run apps (WH, Peppermill, and South Point) all allow log-ins from outside the state. This is because the GPS location occurs at the point you want to make a bet on those apps while Miomni apps preauthorize your ability to bet at log-in. BET SIZES AND RESTRICTIONS Max-bet limits vary wildly among the apps. On the high end are Westgate, SouthPoint, MGM, and CGT, while on the low end are Atlantis, Aliante, and Treasure Island. Coast has established bet limits that are lower than most would expect, usually from $300 to $500 depending on the bet, but it doesn’t have an approval step in place so your bets go right in up to the preset limit. CGT is the only app that has an approval/counter-offer feature. When you submit a bet that requires approval you may get approved, denied, or COUNTERED. The counter will usually be an amount less than your submitted amount but occasionally you can get a counter offer that is higher than what you punched in. This is mostly done with bigger players who CGT is familiar with and appears to be their way of saying they need more on that side so come and get it. If you decline their higher counter offer you get the original submission amount. Overnite betting is a fluid thing with the apps so it’s mostly a trial and error exercise right now. Coast is your best shot at getting in a bet after hours. SouthPoint is a possibility, but it usually just opens betting a little earlier than the others. CGT will often take bets at significantly reduced limits overnite and during football season has run 24-hour betting on the weekends. MGM being the newest app out there is a bit of an unknown, but off-hours bets have been accepted and the expectation is that they will have very liberal hours during football season. Nothing is written in stone as far as betting hours go, so you just have to keep checking in to see which apps have betting open. You can use these links to download current versions of Nevada’s mobile sports betting applications. WILLIAM HILL William Hill Mobile App -Sign-up bonuses available-biggest menu of offerings of all Nevada apps-Live Betting for select games-can log in from out of state and view lines and all account info-runs seasonal promos for app users-Kiosk account access at dozens of locations-backs off players periodically STATIONS Stations Mobile App -Sign up bonuses for 2016 football-Reno outlet at Baldinis-1st-quarter lines for NBA and NFL-players card credit earned COAST Coast Mobile App -avaiable at multiple locations in Las Vegas only-early hours betting (before 8 am)-players card credit earned*-lower limits but firm procedure, $300-$500 max on most everything-soon to have pari-mutuel race betting SOUTHPOINT SouthPoint Mobile App -also available at Rampart-early hours betting available-takes big bets on major sports-can log in from out of state and view lines and all account info CG TECHNOLOGY CGT Mobile App -available at seven locations in Las Vegas-can have accounts at more than one CGT run book-Reduced limits available overnite-will restrict betting on specific events for some players-very restrictive GPS fencing – tough to bet if near a border PEPPERMILL RENO Peppermill Mobile App -available at Reno locations only (Peppermill and Western Village)-Not available in Wendover locations-earns player card credit at a good rate-can log in from out of state and view lines and all account info-backs off players based on cumulative win ALIANTE Aliante Mobile App -very low limits on a good percentage of what they offer-soon to be converted to Coast-Player card credit earned* TREASURE ISLAND Treasure Island Mobile App -suitable for low-limit recreational players MGM MGM Mobile App -available at multiple Las Vegas locations-higher limits than most apps-can log in from out of state and view lines and all account info-European type set-up with lots of 3-way lines and LIVE betting-very accurate GPS fencing capabilities — best app for betting near state lines ATLANTIS Atlantis Mobile App -Available at Reno location only-Big menu including NFL/NBA quarters, NHL 1st periods-LIVE betting available-player card credit earned at a good rate*-low limits on most secondary events WYNN Wynn Mobile App -a very basic app with decent limits but limited variety WESTGATE Westgate Mobile App -very large menu of bet offerings-limits vary but on the high end for a mobile betting app-LIVE betting available-great at Super Bowl with all props available on app *Players card credit earned on the Miomni platform can be a negative for higher rated casino players who are receiving valuable offers. Yes you get the credit for your sports bets but you are also creating another gaming day each time you bet on the app. That means you’re ADT (Average Daily Theoretical) gets watered down because of your sports bets. Significant drop offs on mail offers received have been noted at Coast, Aliante, and Atlantis. =========== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RealSlimShady Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 so is most of the value of betting sports in vegas gone? this is a serious question, still considering whether or not to move there Certainly not as many "off" numbers as in past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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