Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 ANd i get he doesnt have a lot of creators beside him. Thats fair. Still doesnt change the context of his stats. Love didnt have anything good beside him in Minnesota either, but still important to remember the context of those fantastic numbers hed put up And lets also remember Russ had one of the greatest offensive players to ever play the game in KD but couldnt win and ran him out of town with his style of play Pal, a creator? All you did was talk about the amount of wins Cleveland lost without Lebron. OKC is on pace to win 50 games. Without Russell they're a 14 win team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 KD is the leading rebounder on GS, a team with no bigs, and doesn't even average 10 rebounds a game when they need rebounding. LOL, you are delusional.Who led OKC in rebounding when they played together? Is your point really that kd CANT grab rebounds as well as Russ? Really? Russ just tries harder to accumulate stats. Part of it yes is i do believe he wants badly to win. But i think its insane to think Russ doesnt think/care about getting his triple doubles, no matter how much he says otherwise to reporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I agree, Russ is just a stats guy. Will never win a championship with that play style Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Pal, a creator? All you did was talk about the amount of wins Cleveland lost without Lebron. OKC is on pace to win 50 games. Without Russell they're a 14 win team.But that was proven, you are speculating. Lebron actually left and we saw the fall from 66 wins to 16 or whatever it was. Thats absurd. Then he left Miami and they go from 4 straight finals to missing playoffs the next year and takes a joke Clev team that missed 4 straight playoffs in a weak east without him to b2b finals with him So we got to see how those would play out and proved Lebrons value over and over. OKC is going to be a 6 seed probably, id guess 45-46 wins is where they end up. WIthout Russ? Theyd be bad for sure, not a playoff team. But not 14 wins bad imo, probably still 25-28 wins. West isnt that good this year and Adams/Dipo are solid players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Who led OKC in rebounding when they played together? Is your point really that kd CANT grab rebounds as well as Russ? Really? Russ just tries harder to accumulate stats. Part of it yes is i do believe he wants badly to win. But i think its insane to think Russ doesnt think/care about getting his triple doubles, no matter how much he says otherwise to reportersRuss tries harder to win basketball games. Once again, you're argument is that Durant doesn't try as hard to get rebounds. That's laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I agree, Russ is just a stats guy. Will never win a championship with that play styleHater #2 Russ does what is best to help his team win games. They are a playoff team solely because of him. If didn't put forth the effort, they are worse. Fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 But that was proven, you are speculating. Lebron actually left and we saw the fall from 66 wins to 16 or whatever it was. Thats absurd. Then he left Miami and they go from 4 straight finals to missing playoffs the next year and takes a joke Clev team that missed 4 straight playoffs in a weak east without him to b2b finals with him So we got to see how those would play out and proved Lebrons value over and over. OKC is going to be a 6 seed probably, id guess 45-46 wins is where they end up. WIthout Russ? Theyd be bad for sure, not a playoff team. But not 14 wins bad imo, probably still 25-28 wins. West isnt that good this year and Adams/Dipo are solid players. Bad? Who would create and score for OKC. Who would run the offense? They're +/- with Russ of the floor I believe is one of the 3 worst in the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjt Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I agree, Russ is just a stats guy. Will never win a championship with that play styleCee, how you like Timely's guy Okafor? The next Duncan can't crack the Philly rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Cee, how you like Timely's guy Okafor? The next Duncan can't crack the Philly rotation.Can't get 'em all right. What a bust from Chicago. No MVP like Rose, or future MVP like AD. If Okafor tried harder he'd averaged 30/15. He just doesn't want to try that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Cee, how you like Timely's guy Okafor? The next Duncan can't crack the Philly rotation. total hunk of shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Hater #2 Russ does what is best to help his team win games. They are a playoff team solely because of him. If didn't put forth the effort, they are worse. Fact. Yeah , i would agree with that. But even when he had KD on his team he needed too many shots to score KD is setting a career high in FG% this year. Since he's a team player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Russ tries harder to win basketball games. Once again, you're argument is that Durant doesn't try as hard to get rebounds. That's laughable.So why didnt Russ average tons more rebounds than KD in OKC? Why did KD always average more? KD doesnt hang around going for every board since its not necessary. Russ literally will take rebounds from guys, watch he'll do it twice a game. He stays behind on FTs for rebounding, he will cheat off his guy to be in better position to grab rebounds. Watch and youll see Hes great, but hes not what you make him out to be, thats all im saying. Its just like when you had KD as the best player and then Steph after him. All great players, you got a little carried away with all of them though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 So why didnt Russ average tons more rebounds than KD in OKC? Why did KD always average more? KD doesnt hang around going for every board since its not necessary. Russ literally will take rebounds from guys, watch he'll do it twice a game. He stays behind on FTs for rebounding, he will cheat off his guy to be in better position to grab rebounds. Watch and youll see Hes great, but hes not what you make him out to be, thats all im saying. Its just like when you had KD as the best player and then Steph after him. All great players, you got a little carried away with all of them though Exactly, selfish stats guy only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjt Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Greek Freak best player in league by this time next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Yeah , i would agree with that. But even when he had KD on his team he needed too many shots to score KD is setting a career high in FG% this year. Since he's a team playerOr because he doesn't create his own looks nearly as much this year, and can't be doubled and doesn't run as much ISO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 So why didnt Russ average tons more rebounds than KD in OKC? Why did KD always average more? KD doesnt hang around going for every board since its not necessary. Russ literally will take rebounds from guys, watch he'll do it twice a game. He stays behind on FTs for rebounding, he will cheat off his guy to be in better position to grab rebounds. Watch and youll see Hes great, but hes not what you make him out to be, thats all im saying. Its just like when you had KD as the best player and then Steph after him. All great players, you got a little carried away with all of them though Because they had a center who rebounded well and forwards who did as well? Why is OKC better at rebounding this year than they were any year with Durant, despite not adding any elite rebounders to their team? Your theory holds no weight. Russ didn't have to crash the glass as much when they were big in the post, and athletic. And you're arguing nonsense; Russell averaged 7.8 RPG and Durant 8.2. It's not as if they were way different and Russell is 7 inches shorter. Jaysus man. And two years ago Russell outrebounded Durant per game. So once again, wrong. Take their last two years in OKC, and their rebounding totals were identical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Westbrook great but he's still no Lebron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Lebron would have OKC top 2 in west Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Greek Freak best player in league by this time next yearHe needs some help too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Greek Freak best player in league by this time next year Imagine if he could shoot 3s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 fff being aggressive, Oladipo is terrible too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Or because he doesn't create his own looks nearly as much this year, and can't be doubled and doesn't run as much ISO? maybe, i just don't see westy as a guy who's in it to win and taking better shots. He'd rather just jack and do triple doubles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Fact is, Durant doesn't like to bang down low. He doesn't like the physicality. For his size and athleticism, he's not a great rebounder by any stretch. Russell is a better rebounder and a better passer. Durant a better shooter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 maybe, i just don't see westy as a guy who's in it to win and taking better shots. He'd rather just jack and do triple doublesAt what point in a game with these bums on the floor do you hear yourself saying... man, I wish Russell would have passed that to Sabonis instead of attacking and trying to score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 There's one Cee, that was a terrible shot by Russ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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