Gabe Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Take RB off that team and they are 76ers bad. He is an absolute beast and playing with revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 You are getting too wrapped up in the counting stats. The guy is incredible and doesnt stop competing, no taking that away from him Lebron and KD are still the two best players in the NBA, prob with good distance between them and #3. Russ has the ball in his hands all game every game, the stats will come from that. Watch OKC play, its pretty much Russ takes it up and either shoots, drives or drives to pass. When he does give it up along the perimeter and the guy doesnt shoot right away they give it right back to him. If Lebron or KD played the entire game to get stats like theyd theyd both average triple doubles all season as well, but theyd be lesser players. Part of it is necessity, Russ doesnt have tons to work with especially in terms of creators. He has some good players (his team is miles better than the 07 Cavs team that went to the finals) but other than Oladipo none of them can create anything for themselves, so i grant him that. But simply keeping a level head that yes if the ball is in your hands 90% of the time you will get a tons of stats Yeah, i agree. Not sure why 100 shots a game and 42% shooting is impressive to people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Yeah, i agree. Not sure why 100 shots a game and 42% shooting is impressive to people.The forums other Russell hater checks in. Cee doesn't understand why 30/11/10 is impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 No doubt it's impressive but let's not act like Russell and lebron swapped places and Cavs would be better or anywhere near as good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 The forums other Russell hater checks in. Cee doesn't understand why 30/11/10 is impressive. Rebounds and assists are but 30 shots for 30 points is zzzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Rebounds and assists are but 30 shots for 30 points is zzzz24 shot attempts, 31 ppg. Same points per attempt as Kyrie. Russell is 45th in the NBA in PPS. Not elite, but certainly not bad and given his workload and the amount of bad shots he's forced into from time to time, it's pretty good. He is ahead of plenty of stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 24 shot attempts, 31 ppg. Same points per attempt as Kyrie. Russell is 45th in the NBA in PPS. Not elite, but certainly not bad and given his workload and the amount of bad shots he's forced into from time to time, it's pretty good. He is ahead of plenty of stars. Cle would be better off with Kyrie than Westy bud. 48% FG and 43% from 3 both >>> Westy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Cle would be better off with Kyrie than Westy bud. 48% FG and 43% from 3 both >>> WestySo FG% is more valuable than points per shot? How does that even make sense. Who cares what the percentages are. Getting to the foul line puts the other team in foul trouble too which is valuable. No chance Cleveland is better with Kyrie than Russell. That's crazy talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 pts per shot is meaningless for a ball hog. He either shoots it or gets fouled about every other trip down the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sheckler Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 No doubt it's impressive but let's not act like Russell and lebron swapped places and Cavs would be better or anywhere near as good This is true...But Lebron wouldn't be having the statistical season of Westbrook.Lebron will forever be the best player in the league. Not sure if Timely is actually calling him the best player or just in awe of the stats he's putting up, something we'll likely never see again. Unless Ben Simmons is really that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 pts per shot is meaningless for a ball hog. He either shoots it or gets fouled about every other trip down the court. wonder why our bud Timely can't see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 pts per shot is meaningless for a ball hog. He either shoots it or gets fouled about every other trip down the court. You and Cee have to be the first person I've ever seen that says drawing fouls is meaningless. Probably the most valuable attribute of an offensive shot creator is drawing contact, getting to the line, and putting the other team in the bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 You and Cee have to be the first person I've ever seen that says drawing fouls is meaningless. Probably the most valuable attribute of an offensive shot creator is drawing contact, getting to the line, and putting the other team in the bonus. I never said that tho, i just don't jerk off over these volume shooters people pretend are unreal. Bron and KD are way better than westy to me like Tripper said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I never said that tho, i just don't jerk off over these volume shooters people pretend are unreal. Bron and KD are way better than westy to me like Tripper saidDurant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Durant Westy put up a 39% shooting vs warriors last year and is why they lost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Westy put up a 39% shooting vs warriors last year and is why they lost?Guess we were watching a different series. Durant's play in the 2nd half of game 5 and 6 is why the Thunder lost the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Durant not t5 player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Guess we were watching a different series. Durant's play in the 2nd half of game 5 and 6 is why the Thunder lost the series. Must have been. Durant the best player on the warriors this year too 57% shooting is insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 no way. His defense knocks him out of top 8Steph Curry just won an MVP award and he's one of the worst defensive PG's in the NBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easy does it Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Only a matter of time until he gets hurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Steph Curry just won an MVP award and he's one of the worst defensive PG's in the NBA.So what you are saying is defense isn't important when grading who is the best player in the NBA? Gotcha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 So what you are saying is defense isn't important when grading who is the best player in the NBA? Gotcha.No, I think it matters... but when you dominate the offensive end of the floor to the extent of someone like Harden you will not be docked as much for your shit defense. When you carry the burden offensively, a less than maximum effort defensively is more forgivable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I would be in total agreement with you but the shooting percentage doesn't allow him the status of being able to ignore his defensive skill set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 I would be in total agreement with you but the shooting percentage doesn't allow him the status of being able to ignore his defensive skill setHarden? Harden is 6th in the NBA in PPSA. You and Cee and archaic FG%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 Guy very passionate, too. Has that Jordan and Kobe hunger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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