Timely Hitting Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Last year at this point, this debate seemed to have been settled; Parker hadn't recovered the explosiveness he possessed following the knee injury, his career took a big step back, and Wiggins had showed significant improvement in his one year in the league. Fast forward one calendar year, and it appears that Jabari has overtaken Wiggins as the better player in that draft. Wiggins just doesn't do enough on the floor but for score and his efficiency has taken a hit despite being greatly improved from long range. Wiggins has the explosiveness but he doesn't have the body control to work his way in the paint effectively and his ball handling just hasn't advanced from it's below average grade when drafted.Parker has taken a huge step forward this year, even more so the past 10 games. Jabari slash: 19.4/5.6/2.1 with 47/35/76 18.72 PERWiggins slash: 22.2/4.2/2.2 with 44/39/76 15.84 PER Jabari is also playing 4 minutes fewer per game so his rates are even better. Given the amount of developmental time Parker missed due to his torn ACL, and the amount of time it took him for his body to recover, his progress has been much more significant. Tripp had called this race over by the start of this year. They are both still 21 years old, and Parker's offensive game is more complete than Wiggins who has been stuck on the perimeter much of the year. No reason to believe Parker can't get his rebound figures closer to 7 or 8 a game, while increasing his scoring. Starting a team today, Jabari is the choice just as he should have been 3 years ago. Wiggins blows. Canada blows. Tripp blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 bump for tripp Wiggins the 3rd best player on his own team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Cavs were obviously very intelligent trading him for KLove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 The argument was never about who was better on draft day or who might be better first couple years, it was always about high end potential. Wiggins flashed plenty of his elite ceiling his rookie year and has shown flashes of it since. He is far from a disappointment just overshadowed a bit by how great KAT is. You poll the 32 GMs on who they would prefer between Wiggins/Parker and id put money at minimum 25+ say give me Wiggins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 The argument was never about who was better on draft day or who might be better first couple years, it was always about high end potential. Wiggins flashed plenty of his elite ceiling his rookie year and has shown flashes of it since. He is far from a disappointment just overshadowed a bit by how great KAT is. You poll the 32 GMs on who they would prefer between Wiggins/Parker and id put money at minimum 25+ say give me WigginsNo chance at all. What high end potential are we talking about? Jabari is going to be one of the best scoring forwards in the NBA for years to come. He can beat you inside and outside. He has a much more complete offensive game; it's really not even close. Jabari is a year+ behind in his development because of his injury, yet he's a better player than Wiggins already. Jabari has improved more in the past 5 months than Wiggins has his entire career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMartian Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 bump for tripp Wiggins the 3rd best player on his own team now.So would Jabari in the wolves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 Star Bomb Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 Jabari >>> Wigg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 So would Jabari in the wolvesJabari > Lavine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 The argument was never about who was better on draft day or who might be better first couple years, it was always about high end potential. Wiggins flashed plenty of his elite ceiling his rookie year and has shown flashes of it since. He is far from a disappointment just overshadowed a bit by how great KAT is. You poll the 32 GMs on who they would prefer between Wiggins/Parker and id put money at minimum 25+ say give me Wiggins no way if middleton comes back strong, the bucks might have a big 3 like the good old days with allen/robinson/cassell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 no way if middleton comes back strong, the bucks might have a big 3 like the good old days with allen/robinson/cassellyeah, they need something because that roster is so thin is unbelievable. After Jabari and Giannis, it's a collection of players who are either bad and should be out of the league or young. Brogdan the only player that roster has that might turn himself into a heck of a player (I'm a big fan of his game, and think it's funny they got him in the 2nd round and he's going to have a better career than their 1st round -10th overall - pick). Snell should be a back up SF on a bad team, Beasley should be out of the NBA, and Dellavadova is a nice back-up PG at best. Thon Maker will never be anything; Teletovic is terrible. Who am I missing? Henson... nice back-up center with no offensive game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayden11 Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 no way if middleton comes back strong, the bucks might have a big 3 like the good old days with allen/robinson/cassellThose were good times in Milwaukee. Jabari better player imo. If his jumper improves and he at least try's to play defense, he could be an All Star in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted December 28, 2016 Report Share Posted December 28, 2016 I gotta go with jabroni whoever the fukk he is ẃiggīns can't do fukkin shit whatever sport this is should settle it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Another 31-9-7 night from Jabari on 72% shooting. 25+ GM's would take Wiggins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted December 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2016 Those were good times in Milwaukee. Jabari better player imo. If his jumper improves and he at least try's to play defense, he could be an All Star in the league.Way he's going, he might be an all-star right now. Bucks better try to get some other talent around those two before they leave for Free Agency down the road. They've got a 4 year window to be really really good if they can put some pieces around these two. They are fun to watch, but they have no help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted January 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2017 yeah, they need something because that roster is so thin is unbelievable. After Jabari and Giannis, it's a collection of players who are either bad and should be out of the league or young. Brogdan the only player that roster has that might turn himself into a heck of a player (I'm a big fan of his game, and think it's funny they got him in the 2nd round and he's going to have a better career than their 1st round -10th overall - pick). Snell should be a back up SF on a bad team, Beasley should be out of the NBA, and Dellavadova is a nice back-up PG at best. Thon Maker will never be anything; Teletovic is terrible. Who am I missing? Henson... nice back-up center with no offensive game. Sharp guy this Timely is. Since I posted this, he's been the best rookie in the NBA since I don't count Embid who is in his 12th year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sheckler Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Torn ACL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted February 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Torn ACLTerrible news. Second time in that same knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted sheckler Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 Just as they got middleton back too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted February 9, 2017 Report Share Posted February 9, 2017 He plays zero defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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