Guest boatboatboat Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 who was that person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 who was that person Mr. Fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 he voted for you to get in approach him on main forum with an offer, and extend the suggestion to him that he do the same. I doubt he is "afraid" of your action being to sharp for him. now with that said he may decline to do business with you for personnel reasons, but it wouldn't be because he feels you are gonna have to good of chance of wining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 he has refused citing too many outs. Basically wanted him to throw me a bullshit JF line, didn't care for the action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 so you had no desire to participate just wanted to complain. ok cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted June 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 lol it's been 3 weeks and this fucking lunatic still can't let it go How sad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted June 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 so you had no desire to participate just wanted to complain. ok coolKinda exactly like Deemer said. He was there for drama. He doesn't bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 lol it's been 3 weeks and this fucking lunatic still can't let it go How sad every line you've sucked on has been off 6-15 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 so you had no desire to participate just wanted to complain. ok cool Complain no expose yes. The line I was given by a juice free member in test was off 4.5% based on probability. Piqued my interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Fish why didn't you correct the juice free system to represent fair value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 every line you've sucked on has been off 6-15 centsThis is pure nonsense. The fact that juice free doesn't properly give the juice free edge to large dogs and favorites does not mean deemer is giving serious edge away. Deemer is still getting a better than market number - the only benefit if exploiting the slanted large favorite edge would be in hedging out for nickles. In no way does the difference between the juice free line and the no vig change the end return significantly enough to sway the return for fish like you are insinuating. Fish still would have to pick more winners than losers. The only thing it changes a decent % is your hedge out return. You're speaking nonsense. Deemer is still getting a better than market number. Just because fishes better than market number is slightly more +ev would not sway the outcome to the extent you are stating. Assuming what you're saying is even true about deemer. And yes I knew exactly what monkey was talking about well before you jumped on this ship following monkeys post - hence my it's a trap post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 This is pure nonsense. The fact that juice free doesn't properly give the juice free edge to large dogs and favorites does not mean deemer is giving serious edge away. Deemer is still getting a better than market number - the only benefit if exploiting the slanted large favorite edge would be in hedging out for nickles. In no way does the difference between the juice free line and the no vig change the end return significantly enough to sway the return. Fish still would have to pick more winners than losers. The only thing it changes is your hedge out return. You're speaking nonsense. Deemer is still getting a better than market number. Just because fishes better than market number is slightly more +ev would not sway the outcome to the extent you are stating. Assuming what you're saying is even true about deemer. And yes I knew exactly what monkey was talking about well before you jumped on this ship following monkeys post - hence my it's a trap post. :laugh fuck off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 shove your market numbers up your ass Odds are a reflection of probability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 shove your market numbers up your ass Odds are a reflection of probability.ok big guy. Your posts have been terribly inaccurate and your portrayal of fishes edge vs deemer because they're middling as opposed to no vigging the line is hilariously comical so please carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 ok big guy. Your posts have been terribly inaccurate and your portrayal of fishes edge vs deemer because they're middling as opposed to no vigging the line is hilariously comical so please carry on. What you gonna tell me pup, that there's no advantage when a line is middled? Fukk me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Who the fff said there's no advantage? Try reading my post again. There's a small edge but many times the edge would be so small (if playing a spread or the majority of baseball lines) that the edge deemer gains by the line adjustment that juice free uses would outweigh deemers loss or at worst he'd break even. Assuming he lays off some of his action. There is not some significant edge in juice free with a no vig line. Jfc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted June 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Guy is a true moron. Plain and simple. Lol Everyone Jf is a moron, betting -160 when -165 is available everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Who the fff said there's no advantage? Try reading my post again. There's a small edge but many times the edge would be so small (if playing a spread or the majority of baseball lines) that the edge deemer gains by the line adjustment that juice free uses would outweigh deemers loss or at worst he'd break even. Assuming he lays off some of his action. There is not some significant edge in juice free with a no vig line. Jfc. Timely. Skip it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Guy is a true moron. Plain and simple. Lol Everyone Jf is a moron, betting -160 when -165 is available everywhere you haven't a clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 This is pure nonsense. The fact that juice free doesn't properly give the juice free edge to large dogs and favorites does not mean deemer is giving serious edge away. Deemer is still getting a better than market number - the only benefit if exploiting the slanted large favorite edge would be in hedging out for nickles. In no way does the difference between the juice free line and the no vig change the end return significantly enough to sway the return for fish like you are insinuating. Fish still would have to pick more winners than losers. The only thing it changes a decent % is your hedge out return. You're speaking nonsense. Deemer is still getting a better than market number. Just because fishes better than market number is slightly more +ev would not sway the outcome to the extent you are stating. Assuming what you're saying is even true about deemer. And yes I knew exactly what monkey was talking about well before you jumped on this ship following monkeys post - hence my it's a trap post. Certainly helps with ROI. Not just toward hedges. Betting ATS... no advantage unless the line is shaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 Certainly helps with ROI. Not just toward hedges.As I said, it does but not to the extent Billy continues to state and it also does not hurt deemer to the extent Billy is arguing. In many cases deemer still maintains a slight edge vs the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 just pick the right team you guys make this to complicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 As I said, it does but not to the extent Billy continues to state and it also does not hurt deemer to the extent Billy is arguing. In many cases deemer still maintains a slight edge vs the market. Lol what market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 if I like the Dolphins and want to bet them and they are +120 and I can get +125 in JUICE FREE that is a great deal for me Is it really juice free................no Do I fucking care..................no I am getting +125 when its +120 at where I normally play END OF STORY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Man Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 if I like the Dolphins and want to bet them and they are +120 and I can get +125 in JUICE FREE that is a great deal for me Is it really juice free................no Do I fucking care..................no I am getting +125 when its +120 at where I normally play END OF STORY perfect... Same 3 guys will skin the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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