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You want to talk about being a nitwit.  Georgia's Lt. Governor and State Senate block a $40 million tax bill for Delta (which has its headquarters there) when the airline severed its relationship to the NRA because of the Florida shooting.

 

They basically go, apologize to the NRA and backtrack or you're fucked.

 

So what happens.

 

Now Virginia and New York and I think even Alabama (?) are trying to woo Delta to bring their headquarters there.

 

Because of the hardon for assault rifles, Georgia is potentially willing to lose many of the 30,000 Delta jobs already there along with additional jobs and also Atlanta's continued rise as an international hub which brings hundreds of millions additional dollars to the state.

 

On top of that, Atlanta, which was a favorite in the Amazon sweepstakes will now probably lose out on being the home of the new $5,000,000,000 Amazon second headquarters which would bring 50,000 jobs to Georgia.

 

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Downsouth isn’t going to like this!

I love Georgia.  When I leave the Bay Area it's going to be for Savannah, Charleston or NY.  This is just a huge mistake.  You work it out and don't make threats and have it appear that politicians can just start making unconditional demands.  Atlanta needs Delta and Amazon.  It doesn't need assault rifles. 

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I love Georgia.  When I leave the Bay Area it's going to be for Savannah, Charleston or NY.  This is just a huge mistake.  You work it out and don't make threats and have it appear that politicians can just start making unconditional demands.  Atlanta needs Delta and Amazon.  It doesn't need assault rifles. 

 

Corporations shouldn't be making our laws by trying to strong arm our government either though.

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Corporations shouldn't be making our laws by trying to strong arm our government either though.

Delta didn't try to strong arm anyone.  They (like Dick's) just felt like this was a story they didn't want to be a part of.  They wanted to sever their relationship with a powerful but, at this point, very controversial lobbying group.  That's a company choice.

 

It had nothing to do with Georgia.  Georgia (or several politicians in Georgia) decided to strong arm Delta.  They basically said you have to undo this or you're not getting certain benefits.  That's giving the lobbying group (or is just a demonstration of) an incredible amount of power.

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It's corporate welfare and they're threatening to leave if they don't get it.

 

Tough for small business to compete with giant corporations when we subsidize their businesses and not others.

They shouldn't be getting corporate welfare but they shouldn't be getting such a big tax cut either.  Certain politicians in Georgia are trying to punish Delta for a social choice.

 

Walmart just raised the age to buy guns and ammunition to 21.  Don't think anyone is taking on Walmart.  They have 1.3 million employees in the US.

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Long list of companies to boycott.

 

Allied Van Lines

North American Van Lines

Avis Budget Group

Hertz

Enterprise Holdings (which includes Alamo, Enterprise and National)

Starkey Hearing Technologies

MetLife

Chubb

Teladoc

TrueCar

SimpliSafe

Symantec (which includes LifeLock)

Wild Apricot

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Let them go. The entire thing is stupid. Let the politicians and voters decide how gun control is handled going forward. Tell the professional protestors, perpetually outraged, media and NRA to shut up already.

And tell the various businesses to stick to what they do.

 

Who wouldn't want the NRA coming to their busines? 5 million of those fuckers. the bullshit discount gets most of those half brained morons to rush use thinking they are getting something. Ssame thing with large church groups and such.

 

Doubt Delta is going anywhere over a few tax freebies(while they take in record profits). Hartsfield airport is good location for them.

 

And oh boo boo if the city loses the opportunity to bend over and break themselves giving to Bezos. Few decent jobs, bunch of low paying ones and they will be celebrated like their saving the world.

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Delta just wanted to sever a relationship (just stop giving discounts) with an organization that it feels is out of step with the rest of America.  NRA members can still fly, they just don't get to pay less to do it.  The Lt. Governor is playing politics.  He's saying do this thing or you will economically suffer.  That's anti business.  Anti business is not good.  Delta doesn't need its freebies but local government gives breaks all the time to companies because the benefits outweigh everything else.

 

As for Amazon, it was up to 50,000 jobs.  It's not for low paying jobs.  The jobs in Seattle average from $59,000 to $145,000 a year.  You have opportunities like that then a lot of the human capital in the state (like GT grads) don't leave.  I worked in Reno next to the Amazon fulfillment center.  Their lowest paying jobs started at $13 when the minimum wage in Nevada was just over $8.

 

And someone here might want to explain the elephant in the room which is what the President said yesterday in a discussion with lawmakers in which he blamed Obama (not the Republican Congress who blocked him) for not dealing with gun control:

 

"We got to stop this nonsense. It's time."

 

"I'm going to write the bump stock; essentially, write it out. So you won't have to worry about bump stock."

 

"Number one, you can take the guns away immediately from people that you can adjudge easily are mentally ill...Take the guns first, go through due process second."

 

"Some of you people are petrified of the NRA. You can't be petrified."

 

"Look, you're not going to get concealed carry approved."

 

"If you could all get together and we could put it in one great piece of legislation."

 

That's right, Trump is asking for a comprehensive gun control bill.

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Delta just wanted to sever a relationship (just stop giving discounts) with an organization that it feels is out of step with the rest of America.  NRA members can still fly, they just don't get to pay less to do it.  The Lt. Governor is playing politics.  He's saying do this thing or you will economically suffer.  That's anti business.  Anti business is not good.  Delta doesn't need its freebies but local government gives breaks all the time to companies because the benefits outweigh everything else.

 

As for Amazon, it was up to 50,000 jobs.  It's not for low paying jobs.  The jobs in Seattle average from $59,000 to $145,000 a year.  You have opportunities like that then a lot of the human capital in the state (like GT grads) don't leave.  I worked in Reno next to the Amazon fulfillment center.  Their lowest paying jobs started at $13 when the minimum wage in Nevada was just over $8.

 

And someone here might want to explain the elephant in the room which is what the President said yesterday in a discussion with lawmakers in which he blamed Obama (not the Republican Congress who blocked him) for not dealing with gun control:

 

"We got to stop this nonsense. It's time."

 

"I'm going to write the bump stock; essentially, write it out. So you won't have to worry about bump stock."

 

"Number one, you can take the guns away immediately from people that you can adjudge easily are mentally ill...Take the guns first, go through due process second."

 

"Some of you people are petrified of the NRA. You can't be petrified."

 

"Look, you're not going to get concealed carry approved."

 

"If you could all get together and we could put it in one great piece of legislation."

 

That's right, Trump is asking for a comprehensive gun control bill.

 

Delta caved to a perceived group of loudmouths who in this day and age threaten, protest and boycott at the drop of a hat and truly believe its a productive way to handle every issue. 

 

I'm not in the NRA nor a supporter and are generally for forms of weapons reform but I don't need corporations being involved in this decision.  Much less allowing one side to attempt to manipulate public sentiment thru pressuring companies.  Delta gave the NRA discounts because it resulted in free pub to a 5 million plus member organization and they were able to generate additional sales being associated with such. I don't believe they donated to the group but the discount was simply a sales draw. 

 

If there was so much outrage at Deltas loose affiliation why not make your point with your wallet and use someone else. Of course not,  we need a public display in the media and another shit show. 

 

Georgia is a conservative state and has a lot of support for the NRA.  Of course, he is going to say something to attempt to appease his base. I know how dare he threaten take away another tax credit from Delta and airlines who are generally reporting record profits across the board. They will just add the money to another surcharge somewhere along the line. 

 

And for Amazon, I can't see them bringing 50k jobs making almost $60k annually.  Will be top loaded as most companies are with probably less than 20% being top tier jobs.  And in exchange, they will rape and pillage the city's tax coffers in the name of corporate coddling.  And Atlanta makes great sense for them.  Its one of the Black Meccas of the US and would provide them access to educated, quality, minority talent.  Seems stupid to piss it away due to blowhard pressure.  Plus it Bezos,  Super LIberal will 99% make his decision based on money. Then buy a few more expensive toys and act like  he is doing someone a favor. 

 

And $13 an hour for fulfillment center work is crap(majority of jobs at fulfillment centers are towards the bottom).  That's $27k annually at full-time which isn't shit.  Plus, his company has been known in past to treat its employees like shit giving almost zero work-life balance and paying on the lower tier compared to similar positions at different companies. 

 

Richest company in the world, run by richest man in the world and despite his supposedly liberal views is stingy as hell and bludgeons everyone he comes in contact with. Fingers crossed Atlanta is able to land this saint.  I just hope he doesn't try his handing out bananas trick on the streets in Atlanta as it could go really wrong fast. 

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Delta wasn't making a display.  They just said enough.  Kroger just decided they're not selling guns to any one under 21.  Are they playing politics.  They just did it and that's the end of it.  People are getting sick of school shootings, Delta says we want out of this story and a Lt. Governor threatens them.  The dickbag in this whole thing is the Lt. Governor.  He represents all Georgians not gun owning Georgians who won't compromise.  It's not his job to be a ballwasher for the NRA.

 

The fulfillment center story was just to give an example I witnessed of how Amazon paid 40% more in wages for a shit job in a depressed location.  Of course it's a shit job.  Other shit jobs in Nevada pay $8.25 which comes out to less than $18K a year.

 

The second headquarters is not a fulfillment center.  The jobs aren't skewing to the low end.  Amazon is the largest employer in Seattle and Seattle has one of the best standards of living in the country.  As douchey as Bezos is and as douchey as the whole contest to pick the second headquarters thing is as a state it helps to have large companies that pay well open open up very large businesses that will grow in your state.  You don't think Mercedes is looking at what the Lt. Governor just did and not thinking this is a provincial, pushy loudmouth.  Large companies don't like to be hostage to provincial, pushy loudmouths.  The government doesn't get to decide who gets discounts.  That's insane.

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