Who is and isn’t wearing masks when they leave the house?

[FairWarning]

By the time this is all over the disparity is gonna be more about who wore masks and who didn’t.

 

Are their numbers half what what they say? Are they really 160k?

 

That’s gonna be a drop in the bucket.

China has 21 million fewer cell phones in service this month. Things that make you go hmmmm.

[housepicks]

China has 21 million fewer cell phones in service this month. Things that make you go hmmmm.

You think it’s like that?

[MonkeyF0cker]

There's a far greater likelihood that the lockdowns degenerate into violence in the streets if this goes on for too many months than it would for those policies to save millions of lives.

 

And then how many lives did you actually save?

[tailsyoulose]

Of course we do.

Are you aware that viral genomes change and mutate continuously? And that virulence also changes? Can you think of any circumstances that would confer greater evolutionary advantage to a increase in severity? Because I can.

 

What about nonlinearity of mortalirlty rate, based on a shitload of potential covariates, like depletion of healthcare workers, overloading of the system, supply lines going down, riots, martial law? Have you considered THAT? Of course not. You live in a fantasy world of simple linear effects and normal distributions.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Are you aware that viral genomes change and mutate continuously? And that virulence also changes? Can you think of any circumstances that would confer greater evolutionary advantage to a increase in severity? Because I can.

 

What about nonlinearity of mortalirlty rate, based on a shitload of potential covariates, like depletion of healthcare workers, overloading of the system, supply lines going down, riots, martial law? Have you considered THAT? Of course not. You live in a fantasy world of simple linear effects and normal distributions.

And if the virus mutates, the quarantines were just made completely ineffective because you're never going to reach the point of immunity. Or do you think people should never go outside again? Thanks for proving my point again.

[FairWarning]

You think it’s like that?

The only certainty is not to trust China with anything. Could it be 5 million? That’s a lot different than what they were reporting.

[tailsyoulose]

And if the virus mutates, the quarantines were just made completely ineffective. Or do you think people should never go outside again? Thanks for proving my point again.

Slowing it down gives us time to get ahead of it with effective treatment, vaccine, etc. More infections means more mutations. More mutations means vaccine less likely to completely squash it. It's a race against time. We could do everything right and still might lose. All you can do is play the best odds.

[housepicks]

I just know they wear their masks and have dealt with this sort of thing before and their citizens take the proper measures

[MonkeyF0cker]

Slowing it down gives us time to get ahead of it with effective treatment, vaccine, etc. More infections means more mutations. More mutations means vaccine less likely to completely squash it. It's a race against time. We could do everything right and still might lose. All you can do is play the best odds.

There is absolutely no way that a vaccine will be developed and mass produced before this virus infects the vast majority of people on Earth. No matter what the policies enacted are.

[MonkeyF0cker]

The longer that people are not immune, the more likely that the virus mutates. So what's actually the quickest path to immunity?

 

It's not what you're proposing.

[tailsyoulose]

There is absolutely no way that a vaccine will be developed and mass produced before this virus infects the vast majority of people on Earth. No matter what the policies enacted are.

Treatments like chloroquine could drive R0 below 1 though. Which would get us there.

[tailsyoulose]

The longer that people are not immune, the more likely that the virus mutates. So what's actually the quickest path to immunity?

 

It's not what you're proposing.

Are mutation rates based on time? No. They are based on number of genome replications, which is directly related to number of infections.

 

Slowing down infection rate buys more time. More infected for the sake of "immunity'" means more mutation, greater risk of NO immunity.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Treatments like chloroquine could drive R0 below 1 though. Which would get us there.

That's one of our HOPES. Not a certainty either. But I'd like if that was the case. That would solve both the health and economic problems.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Are mutation rates based on time?

If the virus can't survive and no longer exists, I don't see how it can mutate.

[Teddy kgb]

Just got back from the grocery store....maybe 5% had mask and gloves.....wife gave me gloves to wear but they were blue so I didn’t wear, right when I got there I seen a lady with orange gloves , I almost pulled the trigger and gloved up after seeing her, but still passed....

 

Told the wife I wore them.....feel dirty

[Boatboatboat]

wife gave me gloves to wear but they were blue so I didn’t wear,

Brilliant

Blue sucks

[MonkeyF0cker]

Are mutation rates based on time? No. They are based on number of genome replications, which is directly related to number of infections.

Why do you think the total number of infections is going to be lessened in the end? There's no evidence of that. Nobody advocating these policies is even claiming that.

[housepicks]

Masks

 

Gotta have them

[Bfo]

Just got from SMITH'S

 

Roughly 150 in the store between employees and customers...………..three masks spotted

 

2%

 

Few asian folk in Southern Highlands

Smith’s at Rainbow and Windmill has a ton of Filipinos that shop there, would say that half or more of them had masks on. Saw very few white people wearing one. 

[bookbraker]

No mask here. Very little exposure to ppl except my 3 workers.

 

Medicated chapstick up the nose.

 

Get some!

[housepicks]

Smith’s at Rainbow and Windmill has a ton of Filipinos that shop there, would say that half or more of them had masks on. Saw very few white people wearing one.

 

Smith’s at Rainbow and Windmill has a ton of Filipinos that shop there, would say that half or more of them had masks on. Saw very few white people wearing one.

 

 

I’d rather shop next to the asians

[mikeman]

i tried wearing the n95 at work but couldnt stand it, got 3/4 through the day

i will give it another go tomorrow

The ones with the little flap in the middle make all  the difference, I used to wear them at work all the time, the flapped one's are way, way better than the others. far less hot and uncomfortable.

[Brock Landers]

……….and it's saving thousands of lives in this country.

 

Vegas valley close to 2.5 million

 

The casinos here should have been closed earlier than when they were.

Nevada still with their heads up their asses

 

Where's the shelter in place that we've had for 8 days now in Illinois??

[mikeman]

Nevada still with their heads up their asses

 

Where's the shelter in place that we've had for 8 days now in Illinois??

Pay your debts stiff.

[Bfo]

Nevada still with their heads up their asses

 

Where's the shelter in place that we've had for 8 days now in Illinois??

Cashman Field being used as a temp shelter.