WVU Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 I still don't see how manipulation is possible. All you guys think it is happening, but you can't describe any type of scenario (not counting the meme stock fiasco). Kinda sounds like you guys think the stock market is an ATM and when it stops printing it becomes manipulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 19 hours ago, mikeman said: Anytime i make money it's because I'm really, really smart, when I lose money it's because of "those bastards" so much truth to this in this thead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Losco Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 11 minutes ago, WVU said: Kinda sounds like you guys think the stock market is an ATM and when it stops printing it becomes manipulation. agreed. naturally stocks dont go up forever, good reports dont mean a stock isnt overvalued already and certain things arent priced in. some of the climbs the last year have been insane, and they are coming back to earth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, WVU said: I still don't see how manipulation is possible. All you guys think it is happening, but you can't describe any type of scenario (not counting the meme stock fiasco). Kinda sounds like you guys think the stock market is an ATM and when it stops printing it becomes manipulation. I guess my question then is (and I hate to go back to the apple analogy again)....the first week of February Blackrock, investco, pimco, goldman sachs and t Rowe price all upped their apple holdings in their portfllios and it all happened the exact same week. We are talking billions of shares being bought up. This happened right after their incredible earnings announcement. When there are more shares being bought than sold,, the price is supposed to go up right? Yet that week Apple was down every single day. Who is controlling that price/movement? Is it all retail investors that all decided to sell apple at the same time just a week after their biggest earnings quarter in the history of the company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 if you own apple you prolly should worry what the price is 10 yrs from now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, zzmocashzz said: if you own apple you prolly should worry what the price is 10 yrs from now 100% for sure. Was just using it as an analogy because Jim Cramer on mad money mentions Apple probably once a day sort of mocking how the price is manipulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brokerstip Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 I bought a bunch of BBIG at 3.32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, brokerstip said: I bought a bunch of BBIG at 3.32 sure, why not. I'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, zzmocashzz said: if you own apple you prolly should worry what the price is 10 yrs from now has any tech company in the history of the world stayed relevant/successful for 20 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, milwaukee mike said: has any tech company in the history of the world stayed relevant/successful for 20 years? microsoft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, milwaukee mike said: has any tech company in the history of the world stayed relevant/successful for 20 years? Maybe Microsoft. Not many. Lots of companies staying relevant for 10+ years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 apple Founded April 1, 1976 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Microsoft Founded April 4, 1975 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 When was Intel started? July 18, 1968 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 hours ago, WVU said: I still don't see how manipulation is possible. All you guys think it is happening, but you can't describe any type of scenario (not counting the meme stock fiasco). Kinda sounds like you guys think the stock market is an ATM and when it stops printing it becomes manipulation. You’re joking , right? Manipulation is not only possible, it happens daily. HFs and large institutional investors play by different rules and have more tools available then retail investors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 41 minutes ago, joeybagadonuts said: You’re joking , right? Manipulation is not only possible, it happens daily. HFs and large institutional investors play by different rules and have more tools available then retail investors. Like what? How can they manipulate. Still waiting on how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, WVU said: Like what? How can they manipulate. Still waiting on how Naked shorts ladder attacks during AH Controlling and using false news/information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted March 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 minute ago, joeybagadonuts said: Naked shorts ladder attacks during AH Controlling and using false news/information Thanks for at least answering the question. You make good points here and yes certainly possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 2 hours ago, zzmocashzz said: apple Founded April 1, 1976 before the 1st iphone apple was trading for less than the cash on their books, meaning it was worthless so let's say jan 2009 ($3/share) to now ($120/share)... it has been a good 12 year run... i would love to see a tech stock with a good 20 year run msft was a $50 stock at the end of 1999, then at the end of 2013 it was a $20 stock... so that has hardly been relevant as an investment for 20 years intc was a $70 stock in 1999 and then 10 years later it was a $10 stock so that won't win your argument either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERBtheGREAT Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 hours ago, ERBtheGREAT said: Probably going to rocket now but I wasn’t getting greedy damn!! could have been an amazing day, but a well needed bounce back day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 people think all you need to do is buy and hold, well you could've had intel and microsoft for 10 years and you would've lost half your money in msft and 80% of your money in intc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, milwaukee mike said: before the 1st iphone apple was trading for less than the cash on their books, meaning it was worthless so let's say jan 2009 ($3/share) to now ($120/share)... it has been a good 12 year run... i would love to see a tech stock with a good 20 year run msft was a $50 stock at the end of 1999, then at the end of 2013 it was a $20 stock... so that has hardly been relevant as an investment for 20 years intc was a $70 stock in 1999 and then 10 years later it was a $10 stock so that won't win your argument either I don't know about Intel or Msft but Apple also split 2 (possibly 3) times since '09. About a year ago it split 4 for 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 dot.com bubble 2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 46 minutes ago, WVU said: Thanks for at least answering the question. You make good points here and yes certainly possible Wvu...not to sound sarcastic but have a sincere question. What do you think determines a stocks price throughout the day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 Our favorite holding period is forever. Warren Buffett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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