housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, mikeman said: I specifically said flexible hoses. naturally you focused on my initial comment and felt a desperate urge to one up and correct my comment. "The threaded outlets so you can use the flexible hoses - no sodering , etc. " You’ll have threaded outlets on the top of each tank but you aren’t always gonna have “threaded outlets” on your existing water lines to tie in your flex. That’s why I was asking about these “special fittings” Believe it or not, just because you were able to get through your installation at your house doesn’t give you the ability to coach others as to what’s going on at their house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Jimmy Hoffa said: I've never replaced one and this house is 15 years old now. The tank is in an easy and accessible spot on the garage too. I'd probably try replacing it myself. Can’t put a water heater in a garage around these parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, housepicks said: Can’t put a water heater in a garage around these parts. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, housepicks said: You’ll have threaded outlets on the top of each tank but you aren’t always gonna have “threaded outlets” on your existing water lines to tie in your flex. That’s why I was asking about these “special fittings” Believe it or not, just because you were able to get through your installation at your house doesn’t give you the ability to coach others as to what’s going on at their house. You're right, originally i didn't have the threaded outlets above the heater, that's why the first time i did it i had to install them, because I'm not a plumber and didn't know what i was doing(had never soldered before)it took a while to get it right. It was somewhat stressful but also kinda fun. The next time it's quick and easy - except for carrying a water heater that still has some water in it up the stairs. I find your arrogance rather amusing, to presume we cant give each other tips or advice. Like i said, a know it all plumber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, Jimmy Hoffa said: Why? 1) furnaces aren’t designed to run in temps of about 40 degrees or lower. 2) vapors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, mikeman said: You're right, originally i didn't have the threaded outlets above the heater, that's why… I know. Keep on giving advice though, even if it’s wrong, while telling me I’m a know it all. Good job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Hoffa said: I've never replaced one and this house is 15 years old now. The tank is in an easy and accessible spot in the garage too. I'd probably try replacing it myself. I've heard of tanks that last 20-25 years, apparently they have enough buildup of crud inside that the normal rusting is delayed or stopped. othertimes they only last 6-7 years, which sucks, normally the initial anode rod that comes with it lasts a certain number of years and then the tank starts rusting(which will take some more years to produce a leak). I know this stuff because I'm an expert amateur plumber - the kind that house despises. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, housepicks said: 1) furnaces aren’t designed to run in temps of about 40 degrees or lower. 2) vapors Odd, never heard that. It's below 40 frequently yet they're in every garage around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, housepicks said: I know. Keep on giving advice though, even if it’s wrong, while telling me I’m a know it all. Good job. Stick to cooking, you're good at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, mikeman said: Stick to cooking, you're good at that. Plumbing too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jimmy Hoffa said: Why? The main reason is because it would freeze solid. Unless you heat your garage(not common), it'll get way below freezing. I think down in AZ and places like that the heaters are basically outside - in some little alcove or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Hoffa said: Odd, never heard that. It's below 40 frequently yet they're in every garage around here. My garage is insulated but not heated, in extreme cold it'll get below zero, most of the winter it'll be maybe 10-15 degrees, we dont leave the garage door open much in the winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 42 minutes ago, housepicks said: Instant hot water as in no tank recovery(sitting waiting on a reheat if 2 people ahead of you take a shower)Still waiting on hot water to each appliance depending on how far your sink is from the tank. Small inline heaters under every bathroom sink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 If you take a pot of soup out of the fridge and start to heat it up on your stove what happens? you are gonna see water condense on the outside of that pot. the same thing happens in your furnace. Definitely gonna shorten the life of the inducer motor. Maybe the heat exchanger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, housepicks said: If you take a pot of soup out of the fridge and start to heat it up on your stove what happens? you are gonna see water condense on the outside of that pot. the same thing happens in your furnace. Definitely gonna shorten the life of the inducer motor. Maybe the heat exchanger. I thought he was talking about water heaters in a garage? At least that's what i was talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 My garage is insulated too but it's easily below 35ish in there during winter nights. Maybe I've been lucky... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, mikeman said: I thought he was talking about water heaters in a garage? At least that's what i was talking about. Wrong again. Stick to spoiled meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, mikeman said: The main reason is because it would freeze solid. Unless you heat your garage(not common), it'll get way below freezing. I think down in AZ and places like that the heaters are basically outside - in some little alcove or something. Most people in the southwest have heat pumps rather than furnaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, Jimmy Hoffa said: My garage is insulated too but it's easily below 35ish in there during winter nights. Maybe I've been lucky... It's being heated, it's the water lines coming in that would freeze, how deep are your water/sewer lines out there? Here in southern mn they're maybe 6-7 feet, i've heard that up near the border or into canada they're like 8-9 ft . It's kinda interesting, if you call the city to shut off the water they come out and find the shutoff, then they have a long rod that goes down to it and they turn it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, housepicks said: Wrong again. Stick to spoiled meat. Just stop babbling fool, he was specifically talking about the water heater, your apes brain got confused. "I've never replaced one and this house is 15 years old now. The tank is in an easy and accessible spot on the garage too. I'd probably try replacing it myself." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, MonkeyF0cker said: Most people in the southwest have heat pumps rather than furnaces. What about the water heaters, are they outside? Dont you have to have some kind of earthquake straps as well - perhaps not in AZ though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, mikeman said: It's being heated, it's the water lines coming in that would freeze, how deep are your water/sewer lines out there? Here in southern mn they're maybe 6-7 feet, i've heard that up near the border or into canada they're like 8-9 ft . It's kinda interesting, if you call the city to shut off the water they come out and find the shutoff, then they have a long rod that goes down to it and they turn it off. Maybe 6 feet deep if I had to guess. People buy the covers for their exposed faucets. I have them but some years I've forgotten to put them on. I've heard of frozen pipes bursting around here when it gets below 10 degrees but it's never happened to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, mikeman said: Just stop babbling fool, he was specifically talking about the water heater, your apes brain got confused. "I've never replaced one and this house is 15 years old now. The tank is in an easy and accessible spot on the garage too. I'd probably try replacing it myself." Maybe I did fuck that up. I just figured the water heater and furnace sat side by side because they usually do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, mikeman said: It's being heated, it's the water lines coming in that would freeze, how deep are your water/sewer lines out there? Here in southern mn they're maybe 6-7 feet, i've heard that up near the border or into canada they're like 8-9 ft . It's kinda interesting, if you call the city to shut off the water they come out and find the shutoff, then they have a long rod that goes down to it and they turn it off. You talking about a b box key you dildo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted October 18, 2022 Report Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 minute ago, housepicks said: Maybe I did fuck that up. I just figured the water heater and furnace sat side by side because they usually do. No worries,... lets hear from jimmy, is your furnace in the garage too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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