Forget the Covid Thread. Vaxxed or Unvaxxed

[El Chapo2017]

Yup.

 

Covid is done.

 

Open everything up.

 

If you die, you die. Fukkit...

[Boatboatboat]

Dont confuse being "scared" with having common sense.

[mikeman]

Dont confuse being "scared" with having common sense.

250.000 cases costing $12 billion, killing untold numbers of people, all for a stupid motorcycle rally during a pandemic. it's madness I tell you, madness!

 

And now those bastards just had a state fair with a couple hundred thousand people, that's causing tens of thousands of more cases. When you add it up, it's quite possible we can blame the entire pandemic on South Dakota.

[sleepy]

They had a guard at HyVee with several boxes full of masks and bottles of hand sanitizer sitting at a table.

 

She asked me if I needed a mask?

 

Told her "no"

 

The fear and hysteria here is still at a level 10 panic state.

[Boatboatboat]

When you tell them no you do not need a mask they are assuming you have a health condition that preclude you from wearing it no a mental condition

[mikeman]

When you tell them no you do not need a mask they are assuming you have a health condition that preclude you from wearing it no a mental condition

They say nothing because this is what they see...

 

[sleepy]

When you tell them no you do not need a mask they are assuming you have a health condition that preclude you from wearing it no a mental condition

 

The have been told not to confront patriots

 

When I say "no"...

 

The conversation ends right there and I am to be left alone.

[rito]

According to me (an expert modeler) blm protests have caused 7,567,323 cases of coronavirus

[mikeman]

According to me (an expert modeler) blm protests have caused 7,567,323 cases of coronavirus

The funny thing is those estimates were made by "economists" , proving they know nothing about disease spread, and nothing about economics.

[rito]

The funny thing is those estimates were made by "economists" , proving they know nothing about disease spread, and nothing about economics.

Economists are really bad at modeling (see every economic forecast ever). Before boat comes in with his expert bs, I have a degree in economics and spent ten+ years modeling every day.

[mikeman]

Check out this biden clip, one of the worst yet. it appears he's waiting for an answer on the teleprompter.

 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1303075954764414976

[sleepy]

Check out this biden clip, one of the worst yet. it appears he's waiting for an answer on the teleprompter.

 

https://twitter.com/i/status/1303075954764414976

 

guy looks like he may drop dead at any moment

[KingKolzig]

guy looks like he may drop dead at any moment

 

yep i called it. hes sweating his ass off. those amphetamines are back-firing

 

hes addicted to them now. only downhill from here 

[jasson621]

Fauci backtracking on his original fatality prediction (0.1%) in February and then flipping it for a nonsensical 1.0% fatality prediction essentially fucked the world economy as USA is the tail that wags the dog in world healthcare advice.

nice job, Doc....whether intentional or unintentional he flipped Case Fatality Rate (CFR) with Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) which, with influenza, is a 10-1 ratio. If him and his team would have stood by their original 0.1% IFR nobody would have locked down but with presenting IFR of 1.0% which was NOT the model it put the world into chaos

obviously when you have confirmed, active cases you will have a much higher fatality rate than simply being infected which, now we know, is 90% likely to be an infinitesimal, non-contagious marker.

This math "error" has now killed more people from lockdown than from the virus

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/500000-covi...mistake-panic/


The 1% blunder: How a simple but fatal math mistake by US Covid-19 experts caused the world to panic and order lockdowns

In February, US Covid guru Anthony Fauci predicted the virus was ‘akin to a severe flu’ and would therefore kill around 0.1 percent of people. Then fatality rate predictions were somehow mixed up to make it look ten times WORSE.
When you strip everything else out, the reason for lockdown comes from a single figure: one percent. This was the prediction that Covid, if left unchecked, would kill around one percent of us.
You may not think that percentage is enormous, but one percent of the population of the world is 70 million people – and that’s a lot. It would mean 3.2 million Americans dead, and 670,000 Britons.
But where did this one percent figure come from? You may find this hard to believe, but this figure emerged by mistake. A pretty major thing to make a mistake about, but that’s what happened.


With Covid, a similar mistake happened. One type of fatality rate was substituted for another. The wrong rate was then used to predict the likely death rate – and, as with NASA, no-one picked up the error.
In order to understand what happened, you have to understand the difference between two medical terms that sound the same – but are completely different. Rather like a pound second or a Newton second.
Which fatality rate, did you say?

First, there’s the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR). This is the total number of people who are infected by a disease and the number of them who die. This figure includes those who have no symptoms at all, or only very mild symptoms – those who stayed at home, coughed a bit and watched Outbreak.
Then there’s the Case Fatality Rate (CFR). This is the number of people suffering serious symptoms, who are probably ill enough to be in hospital. Clearly, people who are seriously ill – the “cases” – are going to have a higher mortality rate than those who are infected, many of whom don’t have symptoms. Put simply – all cases are infections, but not all infections are cases.
Which means that the CFR will always be far higher than the IFR. With influenza, the CFR is around ten times as high as the IFR. Covid seems to have a similar proportion.
Now, clearly, you do not want to get these figures mixed up. By doing so you would either wildly overestimate, or wildly underestimate, the impact of Covid. But mix these figures up, they did.
The error started in America, but didn’t end there. In healthcare, the US is very much the dog that wags the tail. The figures they come up with are used globally.
On February 28, 2020, an editorial was released by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Published in the New England Journal of Medicine, the editorial stated: “… the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza.”


They added that influenza has a CFR of approximately 0.1 percent. One person in a thousand who gets it badly, dies.
But that quoted CFR for influenza was ten times too low – they meant to say the IFR, the Infection Fatality Rate, for influenza was 0.1 percent. This was their fatal – quite literally – mistake.
The mistake was compounded. On March 11, the same experts testified to Congress, stating that Covid’s CFR was likely to be about one percent, so one person dying from a hundred who fell seriously ill. Which, as time has passed, has proved to be pretty accurate.
At this meeting, they compared the likely impact of Covid to flu. But they used the wrong CFR for influenza, the one stated in the previous NEJM editorial. 0.1 percent, or one in a thousand. The one that was ten times too low.


Mangled beyond recognition

Yes, we are testing and testing, and finding more so-called cases. As you will. But the hospitals and ICUs are virtually empty. Almost no-one is dying of Covid anymore, and most of those who do were otherwise very ill.
Instead of celebrating that, we’ve artificially created a whole new thing to scare ourselves with. We now call a positive test a Covid “case.” This is not medicine. A “case” is someone who has symptoms. A case is not someone carrying tiny amounts of virus in their nose.
Now, however, you test positive, and you’re a “case.” Never in history has medical terminology been so badly mangled. Never have statistics been so badly mangled.

We’ve killed tens of thousands – for nothing

But because we panicked, we’ve added hugely to the toll. Excess mortality between March and May was around 70,000, not the 40,000 who died of/with Covid. Which means 30,000 may have died directly as a result of the actions we took.
We protected the young, the children, who are at zero risk of Covid. But we threw our elderly and vulnerable under a bus. The very group who should have been shielded. Instead, we caused 20,000 excess deaths in care homes.
It was government policy to clear out hospitals, and stuff care homes with patients carrying Covid, or discharge them back to their own homes, to infect their nearest and dearest. Or any community care staff who visited them.
We threw – to use health secretary Matt Hancock’s ridiculous phrase – a ring of steel around care homes. As it turned out, this was not to protect them, but to trap the residents, as we turned their buildings into Covid incubators. Anyone working in care homes, as I do, knows why we got 20,000 excess deaths. Government policy did this.
That is far from all the damage. On top of care homes, the ONS estimates that 16,000 excess deaths were caused by lockdown. The heart attacks and strokes that were not treated. The empty, echoing hospitals and A&E units. The cancer treatments stopped entirely.
Which means that at least as many people have died as a result of the draconian actions taken to combat Covid, as have been killed by the virus itself. This has been a slow-motion stampede, where the elderly – in particular - were trampled to death.
We locked down in fear. We killed tens of thousands unnecessarily, in fear. We crippled the economy, and left millions in fear of their livelihoods. We have trapped abused women and children at home with their abusers. We have wiped out scores of companies, and crushed entire industries.
We stripped out the NHS, and left millions in prolonged pain and suffering, on ever lengthening waiting lists, which have doubled. There have also been tens of thousands of delayed cancer diagnoses – the effects of which are yet to be seen, but the Lancet has estimated at least sixty thousand years of life will be lost.
Lockdown can be seen as a complete and utter disaster. And it was all based on a nonsense, a claim that Covid was going to kill one percent. A claim that can now be seen to be utterly and completely wrong. Sweden, which did not lock down, has had a death rate of 0.0058 percent.
It takes a very big person to admit they have made a horrible, terrible mistake. But a horrible, terrible mistake has been made. Let’s end this ridiculous nonsense now. And vow never to let such monumental stupidity happen ever again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[rito]

Avg american thinks 10% of country has died

[Boatboatboat]

No they dont

[Teddy kgb]

Average American thinks unless nobody dies each and every day, that the Covid is still a ‘thing’

 

It’s fvcking over.......

[jasson621]

Average American thinks unless nobody dies each and every day, that the Covid is still a ‘thing’

 

It’s fvcking over.......

If Democratic Governors hadn't murdered nursing home patients this would've been over by April Fool's Day.

[Boatboatboat]

Ted let's be honest you're a grown man and someone had to spend 2 hours with you on the phone for you to hook up a basic elecktronicks device sold by Amazon your opinion on anything simply does not matter

[Teddy kgb]

Boat.....you’re drunk and you live on mesquito island and shower in your garage....

 

Did Rito punk you yet today? That’s always fun to watch you run away...

[Boatboatboat]

Good one Jed

[FairWarning]

No they dont

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/29/nolte-media-hysteria-convinced-americans-30-million-died-of-coronavirus/

[KingKolzig]

biden will be prez for 4 months tops

 

really after a month it will be so obvious that he cant handle it. then they will prop him up weekend at bidens for a few months

 

then he will resign 

[sleepy]

Here are the 18 states not playing HS football

 

Anyone see a common theme?

 

[Boatboatboat]

And