Ukraine war thread

[vitalyo]

 "Grayvoron" checkpoint taken: Footage from the site of the destruction of the special group of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the border checkpoint in the Belgorod region
 The video shows destroyed American Hammer armored vehicles, other armored vehicles and pickup trucks.
A burnt American HMMWV with the inscription "For Bakhmut" looks especially funny.

 

[vitalyo]

3 hours ago, gambit said:

Russia is trying to argue that Ukraine is Russia, but that ethnic Russians who supposedly entered from Ukraine (which they claim is Russian) are Ukrainian and not Russian. It's the proverbial doublethink in action again.

You need to learn history. Who is established Kiev, who were the first Knyaz (king) of Kiev and where they came from. 

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History of Kyiv

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The early period

 

Origins and foundation

Kyiv has a long, rich, and often stormy history. Its beginnings are lost in antiquity. Archaeological findings of stone and bone implements, the remains of primitive dwellings built of wood and skins, and large accumulations of mammoths’ bones indicate that the first settlements in the vicinity date from the Late Paleolithic Period (some 40,000 to 15,000 years ago). As early as 3000 BCE, Neolithic tribes engaging in agriculture and animal husbandry—notably the Trypillya culture of the mid-5th to 3rd millennium BCE—lived on the site of modern Kyiv. Excavations continue to uncover many artifacts from settlements dating from the Copper, Bronze, and Iron ages. The tribes of the area traded with the nomadic peoples of the steppes to the south—the Scythians, the Sarmatians, and, later, the Khazars—and also with the ancient Greek colonies that were located on the Black Sea coast.

The traditionally recognized year of Kyiv’s establishment is 482 CE, and in 1982 the city celebrated its 1,500th anniversary. However, archaeological evidence suggests that the city was founded in the 6th or 7th century. According to the 12th-century chronicle Povest vremennykh let (“Tale of Bygone Years,” also known as The Russian Primary Chronicle), Kyiv was founded by three brothers, Kyi (Kiy), Shchek, and Khoryv (Khoriv), leaders of the Polyanian tribe of the East Slavs. Each established his own settlement on a hill, and these settlements became the town of Kyiv, named for the eldest brother, Kyi; a small stream nearby was named for their sister Lybed (Lebid). Although the chronicle account is legendary, there are contemporary references to Kyiv in the writings of Byzantine, German, and Arab historians and geographers.

The Varangians (Vikings) seized Kyiv in the mid-9th century, and, as in Novgorod to the north, a Slavo-Varangian ruling elite developed. Kyiv, with its good defensive site on the high river bluffs and as the centre of a rich agricultural area and a group of early Slavic towns, began to gain importance. About 882 Oleg (Oleh), the ruler of Novgorod, captured Kyiv and made it his capital, the centre of the first East Slavic state, Kyivan (Kievan) Rus. The town flourished, chiefly through trade along the Dnieper going south to the Byzantine Empire and north over portages to the rivers flowing to the Baltic Sea—the so-called “road from the Varangians to the Greeks,” or “water road.” Trade also went to the Caspian Sea and Central Asia.

Oleg at the time Knyaz of Russia. Russians came from Ukraine. Lol. 

[vitalyo]

First when the Russians entered Ukraine in February 2022 they had no intentions of capturing Ukraine, all they wanted to do is to force the West and Ukraine to negotiation table. Ukraine it's self doesn't have it's own say, west decided fvck that let's waist Ukrainians in order to weaken Russia. You had your chance to save the country, now the Russians said there will be no negotiations. Ukraine is a nazi infested puppet that got played by the west. There will be no Ukraine, maybe be 3 or 4 provinces, forever in debt. 

Slava Cocaina. 

[vitalyo]

 Putin: Before the creation of the Ukrainian SSR, “there was no Ukraine in the history of mankind”
 ▪️After the October Revolution, the Soviet government created Soviet Ukraine, before that there was no Ukraine - Putin at a meeting with the head of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation Zorkin.
▪️"I brought you a map drawn up in the 17th century by the French. There is no Ukraine there, there is in two places the edge of the Commonwealth and the edge of Cossackia, and the great Kingdom of Russia. I ventured to show you this map, because there was a lot of speculation about our history", Zorkin said, showing the map to the President.
▪️The President confirmed that these lands were part of the Commonwealth and asked to be part of the Muscovy.

 

[WVU]

 Bullshit, Vitalyo.  Imagine being so dumb and gullible that you can believe that?

[redstripe]

1 hour ago, vitalyo said:

In the battles in the Belgorod region, Russian soldiers got American MaxxPro armored vehicles and NATO weapons
 The footage shows two armored vehicles from the United States, a bunch of M136 (AT-4) RPGs, an M240 machine gun, and boxes of ammunition.

 

biden loves supplying the enemy with free artillery . He made the Taliban one the best armed groups in the world 

[mikeman]

22 minutes ago, WVU said:

 Bullshit, Vitalyo.  Imagine being so dumb and gullible that you can believe that?

Do you think getting several dozen men killed for a photo op designed to distract from a catastrophic failure was a good idea?

[vitalyo]

23 minutes ago, WVU said:

 Bullshit, Vitalyo.  Imagine being so dumb and gullible that you can believe that?

Great argument you old fart. 

Just now, mikeman said:

Do you think getting several dozen men killed for a photo op designed to distract from a catastrophic failure was a good idea?

Somehow he agrees with everything Ukraine does. Killing civilians executing POW's and he turns his blind eye. I don't see much difference between being a nazi and supporting a nazis, all same people. 

[mikeman]

1 minute ago, vitalyo said:

Great argument you old fart. 

Somehow he agrees with everything Ukraine does. Killing civilians executing POW's and he turns his blind eye. I don't see much difference between being a nazi and supporting a nazis, all same people. 

They're so brainwashed with the Putin bad mantra , it's very sad really.

[WVU]

13 minutes ago, mikeman said:

Do you think getting several dozen men killed for a photo op designed to distract from a catastrophic failure was a good idea?

No

[WVU]

7 minutes ago, vitalyo said:

Great argument you old fart. 

Somehow he agrees with everything Ukraine does. Killing civilians executing POW's and he turns his blind eye. I don't see much difference between being a nazi and supporting a nazis, all same people. 

lol.  I'm not that old.  If it makes you feel better calling anyone who disagree with Russia a Nazi then have at it.   You sound just as dumb as BigRunner.  Durrrr

[vitalyo]

30 countries have applied to join the BRICS, they arrive almost weekly - Bloomberg quotes Ambassador-at-Large Anil Suklal.

At the moment, BRICS consists of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

Now they want to join the BRICS:

— Algiers,
— Argentina,
— Afghanistan,
— Bangladesh,
— Bahrain,
— Belarus,
— Venezuela,
— Egypt,
— Zimbabwe,
— Indonesia,
— Iran,
- Kazakhstan,
— Mexico,
— Nigeria,
— Nicaragua,
— UAE,
— Pakistan,
- Saudi Arabia,
— Senegal,
— Syria,
— Sudan,
— Thailand,
— Tunisia,
— Türkiye,
— Uruguay.

The whole world with Russia!
2/3 exactly 😎

[mikeman]

i can see fighting for a cause, if you have a chance to either win or live, I wonder how this guy feels?

[vitalyo]

This is a good video I recommend you to watch. I am more interested looking at the people. The selection of eggs is shocking. 

There no tax, buildin in the price like everything else in Russia. Same with your pay per hour no deductions in your paycheck . 

[vitalyo]

^^^Recommended for WVU watch how normal people live and how they act. 

[WVU]

8 minutes ago, vitalyo said:

^^^Recommended for WVU watch how normal people live and how they act. 

one guy who speaks English in a somewhat empty supermarket tells me how normal people live?  I do like the low prices and the clean store, though.

[redstripe]

52 minutes ago, vitalyo said:

^^^Recommended for WVU watch how normal people live and how they act. 

 Just curious if Russia is so great. Why do you not live there ? 

[Bigrunner]

53 minutes ago, vitalyo said:

^^^Recommended for WVU watch how normal people live and how they act. 

If the guy is caught saying or accused of saying today's Hitler sucks, he goes to jail for many years. You aren't seeing people flocking to communist socialist Russia. But you are seeing them leaving by the masses. So many Russians in America. 

[vitalyo]

 ‼️🔞💀Burned fighter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near the burned-out armored vehicle KRAZ "Cobra" at the border checkpoint "Grayvoron" 🔞🔞
 The price of a PR attack with the motto "FOR Bakhmut". 

1 hour ago, mikeman said:

i can see fighting for a cause, if you have a chance to either win or live, I wonder how this guy feels?

 

[vitalyo]

3 minutes ago, redstripe said:

 Just curious if Russia is so great. Why do you not live there ? 

If I could move back I would do it today. 

[mikeman]

3 hours ago, WVU said:

one guy who speaks English in a somewhat empty supermarket tells me how normal people live?  I do like the low prices and the clean store, though.

Russia is clean and safe because they dont have bums all over the city like we do, nor do they have the racial problems we do. It's my understanding that russias problem with alcoholism that was very large after the collapse of the soviet union is far reduced also.

[mikeman]

3 hours ago, vitalyo said:

This is a good video I recommend you to watch. I am more interested looking at the people. The selection of eggs is shocking. 

There no tax, buildin in the price like everything else in Russia. Same with your pay per hour no deductions in your paycheck . 

Not many fat people.

[gambit]

How did this happen?

 

 

[mikeman]

24 minutes ago, gambit said:

How did this happen?

 

 

Hard to say, looks like bullshit to me, they said it wasn't any fun, then they said they had no fear of the enemy when it's well reported that the ukrainians kill many russian prisoners.  They also complained about no aviation, do the ukes have aviation? My money is on a forced statement.

[gambit]

4 minutes ago, mikeman said:

Hard to say, looks like bullshit to me, they said it wasn't any fun, then they said they had no fear of the enemy when it's well reported that the ukrainians kill many russian prisoners.  They also complained about no aviation, do the ukes have aviation? My money is on a forced statement.

or simply a paper tiger / a failed state