TGF Master Political Thread

[Bigrunner]

Trump is doing so many great things.i was so proud of this i wore my new t shirt Trump 2020 make liberals cry again.........i got a lot of thumbs up shopping.

Trump is doing so many bad things that are very unAmerican.

 

TRUMP IS A TRAITOR!

[rjt]

Tiger’s got less hair than Kinger

[Bigrunner]

what is the focus on? reparations, open borders, loan forgivement for student loans. None of which will lower the deficit.

We didn't seem to have these kind of immigration problems under Clinton, Bush and Obama. No the RepubliCONS are spending Billions to help the emergency at the border created by Trump's illegal, inhumane immigration policy. Nothing like separated kids from parents than losing the kids. Disgusting.

[Jimmy Hoffa]

Trump probably made an offer for Buckingham Palace

 

 

Apparently Trump offered Puerto Rico and the Queen quickly turned him down.

 

 

However negotiations continue...

[mr vegas]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-congress-yarmuth/democrats-seek-to-cut-u-s-budget-deficits-in-half-yarmuth-idUSKCN1PN2BE

reoccurring  dem theme...….

 

[mikeman]

No doubt they traded stories on the side about pounding that nasty stripper ass.

[Bigrunner]

[Bigrunner]

Building the wall and Mexico going to pay for it. North Korea denuclearized because Trump sent aircraft carriers to their coast.

 

I watched the Trump's this morning. Trump slipping Kim Jong some tougue was another big win for North Korea.

 

Very similar to when I saw Bruce Jenner come out on the Kardashians. Reality TV at its best.

[zzmocashzz]

[MonkeyF0cker]

You should probably watch the Mexican news (if you can speak spanish) and see what Mexico is doing on their southern border now - because of Trump.

[mikeman]

I see among Trumps entourage when he met   chairman Kim was none other than Tucker Carlson.

 

It's almost impossible, but I like Trump more and more with each passing day. 

 

Tucker is about the most anti deep state/swamp guy there is, for him to have Trumps ear is good news indeed.

[Bigrunner]

You should probably watch the Mexican news (if you can speak spanish) and see what Mexico is doing on their southern border now - because of Trump.

You got a source you can post? I do know traditionally immigration is always extremely down this time of the year because of horrific summer heat for refugees and asylum seekers migrating North. Post your link please.

[rito]

If that was Obama or Harris you would be praising this great day.

If that was Obama you'd be calling for him to be executed

[Bigrunner]

I see among Trumps entourage when he met chairman Kim was none other than Tucker Carlson.

 

It's almost impossible, but I like Trump more and more with each passing day.

 

Tucker is about the most anti deep state/swamp guy there is, for him to have Trumps ear is good news indeed.

Tucker Carlson is on tape saying good leaders have to be serial killers. Is Tucker Carlson a RepubliCON?

[MonkeyF0cker]

You got a source you can post? I do know traditionally immigration is always extremely down this time of the year because of horrific summer heat for refugees and asylum seekers migrating North. Post your link please.

From CNN so you can't call it fake news...

 

https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2019/06/27/gobierno-de-mexico-retorna-a-migrantes-hondurenos/

 

6,000 Mexican troops on their southern border.

 

15,000 on the northern border.

 

Turning away Hondurans.

[MonkeyF0cker]

More detail...

 

https://www.voanoticias.com/a/mexico-ofrece-enviar-6-mil-efectivos-de-su-guardia-a-frontera-sur-para-frenar-migracion/4948809.html

[Bigrunner]

Spanish. Lol Fake News. But if true and with the searing heat. The concentration camps should be emptied this week and the thousands of kidnapped kids should be reunited with their parents immediately. Hopefully we can get the kids some soap, toothpaste, toothbrushes, beds and blankets. Asylum seeks are supposed to be protected until their cases are hear. Some are getting raped by the Trump people.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Here. Since you're not capable of reading spanish and aren't as educated as you claim to be.

 

https://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-tapachula-migrants-united-states-deal-20190613-story.html

 

At Mexico’s southern border, migrants feel the pinch of a crackdown spurred by U.S.

By Patrick J. McDonnell

Jun 13, 2019 | 4:05 PM

| Tapachula, Mexico

At Mexico’s southern border, migrants feel the pinch of a crackdown spurred by U.S.

People who arrived from Guatemala seeking legal documentation in Mexico gather outside the offices of Mexico's National Institute of Immigration in Tapachula, Mexico, on June 12, 2019. (Luis Villalobos/ EPA/Shutterstock)

 

Long lines of migrants, mostly Central Americans, line up daily outside the Tapachula offices of the refugee agencies of Mexico and the United Nations.

 

Meanwhile, a polyglot throng including people from Africa, Asia and the Caribbean regularly gathers at the local headquarters of the National Institute of Immigration, Mexico’s agency for migrant affairs.

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Almost all those seeking help have a common destination — the United States — but they find themselves caught in an expanding Mexican immigration crackdown prompted by U.S. pressure and marooned in this sweltering city in southern Mexico.

 

They cannot proceed north without risking arrest, so they remain in Tapachula seeking documentation allowing legal travel to the U.S.-Mexico border, more than 1,000 miles away. They say they are fleeing poverty and violence in their homelands.

 

Maribel Amador and her family were among those gathered on a recent afternoon outside the offices of the Mexican Refugee Assistance Commission.

 

“There is nothing we can do but wait,” said Amador, 36, a Honduran national seeking refugee status in Mexico along with her husband and four children, ages 5 to 14, though the family hopes to make it to the United States. “We can’t move forward without papers.”

 

A surge this year in migrants from Central America to the United States to levels not seen in at least a decade generated a threat by President Trump to impose tariffs on imports of Mexican goods if Mexico did not move to stem the flow of U.S.-bound migrants traversing the country.

(Los Angeles Times)

 

In recent weeks, Mexican authorities have set up immigration checkpoints along the main northbound highway and have been aggressively detaining and deporting thousands of migrants.

 

The law enforcement squeeze seems destined to tighten with Mexico’s vow to deploy about 6,000 national guard forces to its southern border as part of a deal reached last week with the Trump administration to avert U.S. tariffs.

 

Mexico has 45 days to demonstrate that the northbound flows of migrants are declining, or the two sides go back to the negotiating table, with Mexico in a weakened position, Marcelo Ebrard, the country’s foreign secretary, said Tuesday.

 

A key question is whether Mexican authorities can overcome long-entrenched corruption that has seen police and immigration agents historically working in cahoots with smugglers, enabling vehicles packed with migrants to continue their journeys.

 

“You can stop a couple of thousand people in Tapachula, but if [immigration] officers are still letting people go through in buses, because they have deals with the smugglers, it won’t make much of a difference,” said Stephanie Leutert, director of the Mexican Security Initiative at the University of Texas at Austin. “It will require a lot of political will.”

 

The Mexican strategy is a familiar one: Position checkpoints on the limited number of roads radiating north from the notoriously porous Guatemalan border, which stretches for about 600 miles along jungle, mountain and river terrain. The idea is to bottle up and detain migrants in the south. Mexico also appears to have stepped up enforcement against northbound freight trains, another popular mode of migrant travel.

 

In March, the Mexican interior secretary, Olga Sanchez Cordero, said Mexico planned to create an enforcement containment belt along the Isthmus of Tehuantepec, Mexico’s narrowest point, about 125 miles across from the Pacific to the Gulf of Mexico, to keep the migrant flow from advancing north.

 

The current scenario in the southern state of Chiapas is far removed from the atmosphere of months past, when tens of thousands of Central Americans — in organized caravans and in small groups — moved freely through the corridor. Many were quickly granted humanitarian visas as part of Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador’s vow to assist migrants. The welcome mat has now been yanked.

Migrants unable to find shelter sleep in the street outside the offices of the Mexican Commission for Refugee Assistance in Tapachula, Mexico, on June 12, 2019.

Migrants unable to find shelter sleep in the street outside the offices of the Mexican Commission for Refugee Assistance in Tapachula, Mexico, on June 12, 2019. (Rebecca Blackwell / Associated Press)

 

Mexican officials reported deporting more than 30,000 foreigners during April and May, almost 70% more than during the same period a year earlier. Police also broke up the two most recent northbound migrant caravans, arresting hundreds.

 

The enhanced enforcement, however, is unfolding amid what Mexico calls a massive flow of U.S.-bound migrants. The number could reach 900,000 this year — including what Mexican officials say are unprecedented numbers of women and children, mostly from Honduras and Guatemala. Mexico says the numbers represent about double the figures in recent years.

 

On the main northbound thoroughfare, the Coastal Highway, which parallels the nearby Pacific, immigration agents, federal police and military officers stop northbound buses, cars and minivans, demanding that passengers produce documents. Those lacking papers showing legal status are escorted away to immigration vans.

 

“We are here to provide some order,” said a military policeman helping to staff a checkpoint south of Tapachula.

 

“We can’t have an uncontrolled movement into our country,” said the officer, who declined to give his name because he was not authorized to speak publicly.

 

Migrants who make it to Tapachula, about 20 miles north of the Guatemalan border, say they have little choice but to remain and apply for immigration paperwork — visas, temporary visitor permits, refugee status or departure documents that give recipients 30 days to get out of Mexico. But it has become a tortuous waiting game.

 

The escalating demand has overwhelmed the understaffed immigration bureaucracy, which has also suffered budget cuts. The country’s refugee agency expects that applications will more than double this year to more than 80,000 from 29,000 last year.

An officer from the National Migration Institute checks travelers' identifications aboard a northbound bus at a checkpoint outside Tapachula, Mexico, June 12, 2019.

An officer from the National Migration Institute checks travelers' identifications aboard a northbound bus at a checkpoint outside Tapachula, Mexico, June 12, 2019. (Rebecca Blackwell / Associated Press)

 

While Central Americans represent the majority of migrants converging in the shadow of the Tacana volcano, huge numbers of so-called extracontinentales from across the globe also have made the trek.

 

“I am here now, free today, but I may be arrested today or tomorrow and deported,” said Nesly Simeon, 28, a Haitian national who was among those gathered recently outside the immigration agency in Tapachula, known as Siglo XXI, or 21st Century. “We are here waiting and waiting.”

 

Also in line was Oru Samuel Arrah, 38, among a group of more than two dozen nationals from the African nation of Cameroon.

 

“We want to go to America; we don’t want to be here,” said Arrah, adding that he was a technical engineer in his homeland but faced political repression there. “Why doesn’t Mexico allow us to go?”

 

Many migrants cross illegally into Mexico on rafts crafted of wooden planks and inner tubes across the Suchiate River, which marks the Guatemalan-Mexican frontier.

 

“We mostly see Cubans, Haitians, Africans now,” said Rigoberto Vasquez, known as El Conejito, or Little Rabbit, who has worked the raft enterprise for 35 years, moving merchandise and people from his muddy riverfront depot, across from a lively outdoor bar-restaurant.

 

The Mexican clampdown and the planned national guard deployment have yielded protests against a U.S.-style militarization of Mexico’s southern frontier, which critics liken to Trump’s attempts to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

 

“If we as Mexicans have rejected the construction of a wall, we cannot turn ourselves into that wall,” Mexico’s Catholic Conference of Bishops said in a statement Monday.

 

Hundreds of detainees — many of them Cuban — have staged jailbreaks from the immigration lockup at Siglo XXI.

 

“We are fleeing a dictatorship,” said Marwin Delgado, 35, an athletic trainer from Cuba, who, with his partner, Yurima Fernandez, 27, a physician, were among those waiting on a recent afternoon outside the Mexican refugee agency as a steady beat of cumbia emanated from a dance studio across the street. “We have families in the United States. But the Mexicans don’t want to help us.”

Mexican authorities stop a migrant caravan that had crossed the Mexico-Guatemala border, near Metapa, Chiapas state, Mexico, June 5, 2019.

Mexican authorities stop a migrant caravan that had crossed the Mexico-Guatemala border, near Metapa, Chiapas state, Mexico, June 5, 2019. (Marco Ugarte / Associated Press)

 

Those with access to cash can turn to smugglers, or coyotes, skilled at circumventing checkpoints — and known for paying off Mexican officials.

 

But smuggling fees can run to $5,000 or more per person for passage to the border, with clients often jammed dangerously into the rear of crowded trucks navigating back roads.

 

Many people lacking such funds take temporary jobs in Tapachula as laborers and cooks and in other menial positions to help buy food and rent cheap housing. A dozen or more people are often crammed into single rooms, sleeping on mats and blankets.

 

Migrants gather daily beneath shade trees in Tapachula’s central plaza, waiting for food handouts.

 

Down the street from the Siglo XXI immigration facility, a shantytown of mostly Haitians and Africans awaiting departure papers has sprouted, giving the zone a distinct Afro-Caribbean vibe. Many of the migrants began their journeys in South America. Many Haitians previously worked in Brazil and Chile, making the overland odyssey through mountains, jungles and rivers.

 

“There were no more jobs in Brazil, so we went to Chile,” said Simeon, the Haitian migrant. “Then the Chileans didn’t want us anymore.”

 

Some frustrated migrants try to sneak north in stages, taking public minibuses to points just before immigration checkpoints, then hiking around the barriers, before jumping on other northbound transport. But thieves and kidnappers sometimes lurk in the bush.

 

“They attacked us, but we managed to fight them off and escape,” said Teresa Mayadal, 46, a chemical technician from Havana who, along with her husband, made it to the Mexican city of Arriaga, a freight train terminus about 150 miles north of Tapachula.

 

Her feet were heavily bandaged, the result of blisters from days of walking north from the Guatemalan border. For good luck, she cradled a blue-and-white doll of Santeria, a popular folk religion of African origins, as she and her husband rested on cardboard sheets and blankets outside a migrant shelter in Arriaga.

 

Sitting next to her was a Honduran woman, 21, with tears in her eyes. She said — her voice breaking — she had been sexually assaulted while walking around a checkpoint. The assailants also stole her cellphone and her purse. She asked some visitors whether she could borrow a phone to call her boyfriend in the United States, and sought the equivalent of $1 to pay for a shower at a private home.

 

Her name was Larisa, she said, declining to provide a surname.

 

“I never thought this would happen,” she said, holding back tears.

Jose Mario Barralaga of Honduras sells flour tortillas stuffed with beans and cheese outside the Tapachula offices of the Mexican Refugee Assistance Commission. (Juan de Dios Davish/Special to The Times)

 

The lucky ones, like Jose Mario Barralaga, 28, from La Ceiba, Honduras, obtained humanitarian visas allowing them unfettered travel through Mexico. But Barralaga — who says he was shot by gang members in La Ceiba and left for dead because he refused extortion threats — plans to wait in Tapachula several more weeks with his wife and two children while saving a few hundred dollars for the trip to the U.S. border.

 

“In the United States, we have heard there is a chance of improvement for our families,” said Barralaga, who earns a living hawking homemade baleadas, a Honduran staple of flour tortillas stuffed with beans and cheese, to fellow migrants outside the Mexican refugee office. “That chance for improvement is what we all hope for.”

 

Cecilia Sanchez of The Times’ Mexico City bureau and special correspondent Liliana Nieto del Rio in Arriaga contributed to this report.

Is the LA Times liberal enough for you?

[mikeman]

Donald the Great, he truly is! 

[mikeman]

Tucker Carlson is on tape saying good leaders have to be serial killers. Is Tucker Carlson a RepubliCON?

Tucker should be made chief of staff/national security advisor, his judgement is spot on.

 

Of course, since he's making like $15 million a year at FOX, he cant do that.

[Bigrunner]

Here. Since you're not capable of reading spanish and aren't as educated as you claim to be.

 

https://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-tapachula-migrants-united-states-deal-20190613-story.html

 

 

Is the LA Times liberal enough for you?

Fake News. Propaganda. Trump making the world a better place one migrant death at a time. 10 kidnapped kids at a times. One great friendship with a serial killer at a time.

 

I guarantee parts of Trump's immigration policies are illegal. He's lost many lawsuits about treatment of kids and he's going to lose more due to his unconstitutional policies.

 

TRUMP IS A TRAITOR. Serial rapist, serial draft dodger, serial consumer fraudster, pathological liar, racist, bigot, birther champion, Central Park 5 dickhead, election fraudster, pussy grabber, serial bankrupted, tax evader, self dealer with his charity, serial adulter, and Individual 1. Jimmy Carter calls him an illigetimate president for accepting Russian help to win an election. Over 1000 former prosecutors have signed a letter after reading Mueller Report saying Trump should be indicted.

 

These are facts not Mexican fake news

[MonkeyF0cker]

Uh huh. Fake news? If you say so. It's only all over the Mexican news. Obviously, Mexicans must love Trump then if that's your story.

[kovacsbar]

I guess a dim bulb can only hope the constants in my models don't cause them to fail like yours. LOL.

 

For the best that you run away like you did to Canada. Your cons aren't working here if you haven't noticed.

 

 

I

 

just

 

don't

 

care

[MonkeyF0cker]

I

 

just

 

don't

 

care

Clearly.

 

Care enough to lie to try to impress all of us though. LOL.

 

And make 30 posts a day doing it.

[mikeman]

Clearly.

 

Care enough to lie to try to impress all of us though. LOL.

 

And make 30 posts a day doing it.

Yet he responds to every post, wildly swinging from threats to boasts. The word for it is kookoo.