JTGAMBLE Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Doctors get paid big money to push pills on you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 3 minutes ago, mikeman said: By the way, my young female Dr, prob low 30's at the most - she was the only person I saw in the clinic wearing a mask, the receptionists, nurses, tech who took my blood, none had masks on, but the dr did. That bothered me. ZERO SHOT AT HEAD, SAD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike75 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 2 hours ago, FISHHEAD said: Fish oil Garlic Oats Great Advice!! Stay away from statins especially Lipitor. Years ago my great aunt a nurse taught a lot of us family what meds to take from docs and ones to avoid. Those statins cause horrible muscle and bone pain as one of many side effects and my rental manager went from a big 260 pound woman to a 120 pound skeleton within a year on Lipitor and i begged her to change meds until she FINALLY got on Lovaza which is a pharma fish oil. As for myself they gave me Lipitor years ago and i threw it in the trash and started on a Fish Oil,Magnesium for my cholesterol To this day there are certain meds like blood pressure,diabetic,etc that are effective and fine to use the only thing is the pharma giants all hate vitamins,supplements and a lot of vitamins,supplements are huge help for many different ailments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike75 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 1 hour ago, JTGAMBLE said: Doctors get paid big money to push pills on you. Yep big pharma line these doctors pockets with cash so the docs will write you all these scripts for all that ails you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 Quit going to doctors Fuk those losers 90% vote dem and want you dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdalert447 Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 I’ve been on Atorvistatin for about two years. Minor aches, nothing significant. Got my cholesterol right in order. That and the magic Metamucil/flaxseed drink in the morning. Some say the whole cholesterol thing is a scam. Who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi_Archie Posted March 15 Report Share Posted March 15 link between cholesterol and heart health way over exaggerated via the faulty Farmington study. big pharma exploited for huge gains and now soy boys line up and say ",yes please because who knows?"... hey a doctor would never lead us astray right? soy boys on mind control exercises and drugs we are doomed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 15 Author Report Share Posted March 15 10 minutes ago, rdalert447 said: I’ve been on Atorvistatin for about two years. Minor aches, nothing significant. Got my cholesterol right in order. That and the magic Metamucil/flaxseed drink in the morning. Some say the whole cholesterol thing is a scam. Who knows? What was your cholesterol level before and after you took them? What kind of improvement we talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdalert447 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 240-ish. Now I’m usually down in the mid 170’s-180’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 5 minutes ago, rdalert447 said: 240-ish. Now I’m usually down in the mid 170’s-180’s 240 is a tad high, but my readings the last 2 years have been 203 and 193, which is why I think I dont need it. Like I said earlier, this dr is just going by their drug metric, I think she'd recommend statins if I was 170 or even less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdalert447 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 22 minutes ago, mikeman said: 240 is a tad high, but my readings the last 2 years have been 203 and 193, which is why I think I dont need it. Like I said earlier, this dr is just going by their drug metric, I think she'd recommend statins if I was 170 or even less. I got the 240 down with diet and Metamucil/flaxseed. But then I kind of plateaued, so went on the statin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 16 hours ago, mikeman said: By the way, my young female Dr, prob low 30's at the most - she was the only person I saw in the clinic wearing a mask, the receptionists, nurses, tech who took my blood, none had masks on, but the dr did. That bothered me. It wasn’t a DEI dr from Somalia was it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 In 1970 cholesterol levels were considered normal until you got above 300. Wake up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstripe Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 19 hours ago, Chi_Archie said: statins are a scam Dementia also starting to get linked to them, among other things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 59 minutes ago, FairWarning said: It wasn’t a DEI dr from Somalia was it? No, she's a young skinny white gal, actually seems nice, but the mask was a turn off. I was supposedly there for a physical but they dont really do them anymore - she talked for like 15 min trying to convince me to start the statins, change various parts of my lifestyle, get vaccines - then she had me hop up on the table and with my shirt on pretended to listen to my heart with the stethoscope for maybe 15 seconds, then she had me go ahh for at most 1/2 second - it was all for show. All they really care about is what their computer programs tell them...get various shots, get procedures, and get labeled for various ailments so they can prescribe lifetime drugs. For instance I'm labeled pre diabetic even though my A1C is 5.5 and has been that way for years.(one time it was 5.7 i told her I had gout last summer and she talked about daily meds(that brock takes), I said it only seems to happen every year to a yr and a half, dont think I'm ready for that - I didn't mention that I took my cats medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Hoffa Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, mikeman said: No, she's a young skinny white gal, actually seems nice, but the mask was a turn off. I was supposedly there for a physical but they dont really do them anymore - she talked for like 15 min trying to convince me to start the statins, change various parts of my lifestyle, get vaccines - then she had me hop up on the table and with my shirt on pretended to listen to my heart with the stethoscope for maybe 15 seconds, then she had me go ahh for at most 1/2 second - it was all for show. All they really care about is what their computer programs tell them...get various shots, get procedures, and get labeled for various ailments so they can prescribe lifetime drugs. For instance I'm labeled pre diabetic even though my A1C is 5.5 and has been that way for years.(one time it was 5.7 i told her I had gout last summer and she talked about daily meds(that brock takes), I said it only seems to happen every year to a yr and a half, dont think I'm ready for that - I didn't mention that I took my cats medicine. They've had me down as pre-diabetic for 10 years. Joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdalert447 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 2 hours ago, housepicks said: In 1970 cholesterol levels were considered normal until you got above 300. Wake up. Life expectancy has gone up roughly 13 years since then. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slyone66 Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 18 hours ago, rdalert447 said: I’ve been on Atorvistatin for about two years. Minor aches, nothing significant. Got my cholesterol right in order. That and the magic Metamucil/flaxseed drink in the morning. Some say the whole cholesterol thing is a scam. Who knows? also been taking for about 2 years no side effects same with my cholesterol right where should be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 3 hours ago, rdalert447 said: Life expectancy has gone up roughly 13 years since then. 😁 Cardiovascular disease has gone up as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
housepicks Posted March 16 Report Share Posted March 16 The health care industry is a business just like any other. The goal is to sell product in the stores we call doctors offices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 16 Author Report Share Posted March 16 Got home from the bar to a message from the dr, she said my test results were good but she still recommends I go on the statins, said my family history and "high normal" LDL indicates it - my LDL numbers have been well under high normal for at least the last 2 years - the top of normal is like 130 and I'm at 119. As I said earlier no matter what my reading is she was going to say take them. I'll toss the bottle in the cabinet with the rest of the RX's I didn't take or never used up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikeman Posted March 27 Author Report Share Posted March 27 23 minutes ago, Chi_Archie said: Interesting but who has cholesterol that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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