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Maybe. I don't think he likes modelers. He thinks you gotta know the ins and outs.

 

At the biggest level you need both.  

 

I model a bunch of small basketball/soccer leagues around the world and the lines are really soft, so the model does fine, but sometimes I'm missing some huge piece of info and get raped on a game.  That's fine, there's enough games to overcome it.   But, when you get into big shit like NFL/NBA  you really better know who is playing, etc.

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At the biggest level you need both.  

 

I model a bunch of small basketball/soccer leagues around the world and the lines are really soft, so the model does fine, but sometimes I'm missing some huge piece of info and get raped on a game.  That's fine, there's enough games to overcome it.   But, when you get into big shit like NFL/NBA  you really better know who is playing, etc.

Yeah. Pretty much everything has been taken out by the math guys. Someone like Heartman can probably beat NASCAR if he still has his wits about him but it seems he has been out of the game a long time and underestimates what is available. I don't know NASCAR at all. It may be a moneygrab for all I know but I doubt it.

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