sports j Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Sunday, July 02, 2017 Multiple states reject request from Trump's voter fraud commission to provide voter roll databy Josh Siegel | Jun 29, 2017, 8:47 PM | Updated Jun 30, 2017, 12:29 AM Officials in at least five states say they will reject a request by President Trump's voter fraud commission to turn over all publicly available voter roll data. By late Thursday evening California, Kentucky, Virginia, Massachusetts and Connecticut signaled resistance to the request citing concerns over privacy, politics and one of the commission's top officials. In a letter sent Wednesday to all 50 secretaries of state, the Presidential Advisory Commission on Election Integrity's vice chairman — Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach — requests the full names of all registered voters, their addresses, dates of birth, the last four digits of their Social Security numbers, voting history and other personal information. The letter says that any documents submitted to the commission will also be made available to the public. Alex Padilla, California's Democratic secretary of state, was the first to object to the request, releasing a statement Thursday vowing that he will "not provide sensitive voter information" to a commission that is pursuing "debunked claims of massive voter fraud." "As secretary of state, it is my duty to ensure the integrity of our elections and to protect the voting rights and privacy of our state's voters," Padilla said. "I will not provide sensitive voter information to a commission that has already inaccurately passed judgement that millions of Californians voted illegally. California's participation would only to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud made by the president, the vice president, and Mr. Kobach." Padilla went on to call the commission a "waste of taxpayer money" and a "distraction from the real threats of the integrity of our elections today," which he considers to be Russia's interference in the 2016 campaign. Kentucky's Democratic secretary of state, Alison Lundergan Grimes, said that she too will decline providing voting data to Trump's commission. "The president created his election commission based on the false notion that voter fraud is a widespread issue — it is not," Lundergan Grimes said. "Kentucky will not aid a commission that is at best a waste of taxpayer money and at worst an effort to legitimize voter suppression efforts across the country." Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a Democrat, called the commission "politically motivated and silly" and said his state would not comply. "I have no intention of honoring this request," he said. Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, also a Democrat, refused to give voting information for a different reason. "They're not going to get it," said Brian McNiff, a spokesman for Galvin. "It's not a public record." Massachusetts law specifies that the voter data "shall not be a public record." Connecticut's secretary of state, Denise Merrill, took a more nuanced position. Merill, a Democrat, said she would "share publicly-available information with the Kobach Commission while ensuring that the privacy of voters is honored by withholding protected data." However, she took special exception to Kobach making the request, who she says "has a lengthy record of illegally disenfranchising eligible voters in Kansas." Kobach, a conservative candidate for Kansas governor in 2018, is a leading proponent of strict voter-identification laws. He has helped design some of the toughest voting laws in the country, which Democrats and civil rights groups allege are meant to restrict voting access to minority groups. The ACLU has filed four lawsuits against Kobach since he was elected Kansas secretary of state in 2010. Last week, a federal judge fined Kobach $1,000 "for presenting misleading arguments in a voting-related lawsuit," according to Politico. The in-person voter fraud targeted by Kobach is historically rare. A 2014 study by Justin Levitt looking at in-person voter fraud found there to be 31 instances out of more than 1 billion ballots cast in local, state, and national elections over 14 years. Despite this evidence, Trump in May created the voter fraud commission after making an unsubstantiated claim that millions of illegal immigrants voted for Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election, and prevented him from winning the popular vote. The commission, led by Vice President Mike Pence and Kobach, is charged with investigating voter fraud and issuing recommendations to prevent it. It will have its first meeting July 19 in Washington, D.C.Josh Siegel Voter Fraud Mike Pence Donald Trump 2016 Elections Massachusetts Kentucky Connecticut California White House News PoliticsShare with friends.COMMENTS(32)LOG INSUBMITSort byHighest ratedHide repliesUser profile image Steve Morschauser 2 days agoIn reply to: Well, there it is, proof positive that HILLARY DID NOT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE, because if she had, these states would be screaming to prove she did by showing the Country the voter rolls, but instead... — Chuck Arnold You're not using your mind. The voter data being requested would not contain who voted for whom.FlagReactReplyUser profile image skyler stone 2 days agoIn reply to: Well, there it is, proof positive that HILLARY DID NOT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE, because if she had, these states would be screaming to prove she did by showing the Country the voter rolls, but instead... — Chuck Arnold ...and up is down, black is white..........FlagReactReplyUser profile image Chuck Arnold 2 days ago Well, there it is, proof positive that HILLARY DID NOT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE, because if she had, these states would be screaming to prove she did by showing the Country the voter rolls, but instead their hiding them from the American people. What better proof could there be than this to prove Trump won the popular vote as well.undefinedundefinedundefined6 ReactionsFlagReactReplyShare conversationHide 2 repliesUser profile image Mark934 1 day agoIn reply to: For a year it's been said that "Russian collusion in the election" has not been settled due to obstruction of information. But with voter fraud / collusion claims and evidence, these election... — MajorMoral Obvious obstruction of justice. I'm sure McCabe will be all over this FlagReactReplyUser profile image Peter Norton 2 days agoIn reply to: For a year it's been said that "Russian collusion in the election" has not been settled due to obstruction of information. But with voter fraud / collusion claims and evidence, these election... — MajorMoral What they're hiding is OUR personal information and voting records. Those are guaranteed to be protected from ANYONE who wants to use them against us. We live in a democracy. If you'd prefer to have all your information revealed to both parties then by all means move to Russia. A dictator like Vladimir Putin would appreciate your support.FlagReactReplyUser profile image MajorMoral 2 days ago For a year it's been said that "Russian collusion in the election" has not been settled due to obstruction of information. But with voter fraud / collusion claims and evidence, these election officials will not help resolve this real issue? What are they hiding?undefined3 ReactionsFlagReactReplyShare conversationHide 2 repliesUser profile image Robert Woodward 2 days ago Well it's certainly good we have that settled.undefined1 ReactionsFlagReactReplyShare conversationUser profile image Ben Franklin 2 days ago We have no way of knowing if in-person fraud is rare or not, which is why the study is being done. It is just propaganda for this article to flatly state that it is not a problem as if there is some definitive study of the issue. The left has made massive efforts to ensure we do not know who is voting. If proper ID is not required then how could we even find votes cast by people who are ineligible? Of course there would be nothing to find because efforts were made to make sure that data is not available. Why are the people in our press so incapable of reasoning logically? You would think newspapers would screw-up and hire the occasional person of average intelligence now and again.FlagReactReplyShare conversationUser profile image Jack Hagan 2 days ago This is it. The end of the "liberal" attempt to enslave mankind. That is their endgame, they will fight this with everything they can do. Evil.FlagReactReplyShare conversationUser profile image Richard Jung 3 days ago Of what is he scared? Most would appreciate the effort to clear up false voter registrations.undefined2 ReactionsFlagReactReplyShare conversationUser profile image Grizz Mann 1 day ago Funny that the feds have to resort to the Freedom of Information Act to get public information. Makes you wonder?FlagReactReplyShare conversationUser profile image T Christopher Ritchie 2 days ago VA had over 5600 self reported voter fraud cases that participated in the last four elections. I assume the number is much higher, when we take into account non-self reporting. The race between Senator Warner and Ed Gillespie was about a 17k difference. It quite plausible that Senator Warner was re-elected due to voter fraud.FlagReactReplyShare conversationUser profile image Mike Camilli 22 hours ago Hmmmm you knew California would not go along with a closer look! I know, I live here and the people on the street know the President is correct about the fraud here. Take them to court!!! Don't back down!!! When it comes out that there is indeed voter fraud going on here in California that will surely shut Hillary up and force this state to clean up the voter rolls!!!FlagReactReplyShare conversationUser profile image Grimm Bastard ☣ 2 days ago Funny. Democrats are usually gung-ho about wasting tax dollars, but suddenly it's a problem for a *real* issue that affects the nation.FlagReactReplyShare conversationShow More CommentsPrivacyTermsRead More CommentsMore Washington ExaminerPeople who get into fights with Donald Trump often end up diminished by it. (AP Photo/Susan Walsh) 12 hours agoByron York: The price of fighting with TrumpLavrov also said that, had Russia not intervened to help Assad, the United States might have "joined forces with the terrorists" to overthrow the regime. 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sports j Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 So he pretty much wants russia to have a easier time hacking the voter rolls he wants all the info on a " secure server" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BranchDavidian Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 The names of registered voters is not sensitive information. A list of every American would not be sensitive information. The fact that you are alive and living in America need not be kept secret - it does not make you a target. { Alex Padilla, California's Democratic secretary of state, was the first to object to the request, releasing a statement Thursday vowing that he will "not provide sensitive voter information" to a commission that is pursuing "debunked claims of massive voter fraud." } The President claims that there is a lot of voter fraud. The Left denies that this fraud exists, but is not willing to check because it knows what it will find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sports j Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS ARE SENSITIVE BRANCH YOU CANT GO TO YOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY AND GET PEOPLES SOCIAL HE WANTS TO PUT IT ON A "SECURE SERVER". As far as the names of voters not being sensitive why when it comes to a gun registry database the republicans say no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterman Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 They know Trump will be proven correct in his voter fraud claims. Here is a nice little tidbit from the Great State of CT. The department of mental retardation has had a long tradition of transporting the patients to the voting booths and "recommending" to the patients that if they pull a certain lever they might get a nice ice cream later. Nothing wrong with that..."right Governor Molloy"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sports j Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 There is no voter fraud just voter supression why you people continue to believe the lies trump says is beyond me. There trying to purge voter roles easier which by itself is the "real voter fraud" whats next bringing back poll tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sports j Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 They know Trump will be proven correct in his voter fraud claims. Here is a nice little tidbit from the Great State of CT. The department of mental retardation has had a long tradition of transporting the patients to the voting booths and "recommending" to the patients that if they pull a certain lever they might get a nice ice cream later. Nothing wrong with that..."right Governor Molloy"?Lol yea and a 400 pound man was responsible for hacking the dnc also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterman Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Lol yea and a 400 pound man was responsible for hacking the dnc also. As usual I have no idea what you and most other monkeys around here are on about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BranchDavidian Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 There is no voter fraud just voter supression why you people continue to believe the lies trump says is beyond me. There trying to purge voter roles easier which by itself is the "real voter fraud" whats next bringing back poll tax. They are only asking for the last 4 digits of the SS number - just like you give out like candy to every data base that requires it. There is no voter fraud? Then why are you afraid to check?Yes, there will be voter suppression - the illegal voters vote will be suppressed. Why do you find that abhorrent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BranchDavidian Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 There is no voter fraud just voter supression why you people continue to believe the lies trump says is beyond me. There trying to purge voter roles easier which by itself is the "real voter fraud" whats next bringing back poll tax. And, why do you get so upset when Trump lies? You don't seem to mind when Obama did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sports j Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 There is no widespread evidence of massive voter fraud just like there was no evidence of obama wiretapping obama having a fake birth certificate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sports j Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 And, why do you get so upset when Trump lies? You don't seem to mind when Obama did.What happens when he comes out with a claim of a country having wmd we cant trust him because of the lies i have military friends i dont want them dying because he wants to punish a country for not doin business with him which is possible. Did obama claim bush wiretapped him then provide no evidence? Did he fire a fbi investigator because the russia investigation aggarvated him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijoe066 Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Our Trump has never lied and never will. That is FAKE NEWS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 If Obama asked for the same info the nutjobs would have gone insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sports j Posted July 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 If Obama asked for the same info the nutjobs would have gone insane.He wouldnt because he can win elections without the help of russia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS ARE SENSITIVE BRANCH YOU CANT GO TO YOUR LOCAL MUNICIPALITY AND GET PEOPLES SOCIAL HE WANTS TO PUT IT ON A "SECURE SERVER". As far as the names of voters not being sensitive why when it comes to a gun registry database the republicans say no? That's an excellent point. I don't want my name and information on either registry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 More distracting stuff to get people away from the REAL investigation going on by Mueller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 More distracting stuff to get people away from the REAL investigation going on by MuellerGet fucked, fucko. Back to your poverty thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 They are only asking for the last 4 digits of the SS number - just like you give out like candy to every data base that requires it. There is no voter fraud? Then why are you afraid to check?Yes, there will be voter suppression - the illegal voters vote will be suppressed. Why do you find that abhorrent? The last 4 of the SS number is the hardest part. The SS prefix comes from the state and is widely known. Take a state like Delaware. If you were born there, there are currently two widely used prefixes 221 and 222. If someone knows where you were born or where you live (i.e. where you voted), the prefix can be reasonably deduced for a high percentage of the population. That leaves two numbers to brute force. If you have someone's last 4 and know that they are from Delaware, you have an extremely high probability of having their entire SS number with less than 2000 guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 It is the onus of the accuser to provide evidence of a crime. There are surely other ways to indicate that there is widespread voter fraud other than utilizing massive state and federal resources and putting citizens' privacy at risk. Pretty hard to reduce the debt when you're conducting witch hunts with government coffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BranchDavidian Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 There is no widespread evidence of massive voter fraud just like there was no evidence of obama wiretapping obama having a fake birth certificate. If you don't look for something, that does not mean it is not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 Get fucked, fucko. Back to your poverty thread.fuck you notice im posting here and not banned either Asshole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 If you don't look for something, that does not mean it is not there.If you look infinite times for something and never find it you can still pretend it's there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 If you don't look for something, that does not mean it is not there.sorta like when koresh was fuckin little girls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted July 2, 2017 Report Share Posted July 2, 2017 fuck you notice im posting here and not banned either AssholeIt's not Monday yet dipshit. You have till tomorrow to send boat his $1k or its lights out , midget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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