KingRevolver Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 This would bother me if I were shooting but that could just be my ADD. [video=youtube;qdMqWin9pHg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdMqWin9pHg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 I would think that distractions do bother the bad free throw shooters since they are not confident at the line to begin with. But I don't think it bothers the good free throw shooters at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripp Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 No i would guess it has no impact I cant stand the girls that do the incredibly loud high pitched screaming as guys shoot FT's. Its loud enough that you hear it on TV, couldn't imagine sitting next to someone like that. Would ruin the game for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 no SI did a study virtually no difference between FT shooting home vs. road home field/court/ice advantage is created by the refs blowing calls to help the home team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easygoer Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 I would think that distractions do bother the bad free throw shooters since they are not confident at the line to begin with. But I don't think it bothers the good free throw shooters at all. correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted January 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Yeah, but is free-throw shooting really about confidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richsox24 Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Yeah' date=' but is free-throw shooting really about confidence?[/quote'] Confidence / mental toughness plays a role in any sport. I think almost anything can bother a bad free throw shooter and make their % go even lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Not good ft shooters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMtribe17 Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Yeah' date=' but is free-throw shooting really about confidence?[/quote'] 1) I think confidence plays a role in it. If there is a player who has gone 1/4 from the line in the game so far, it is more than likely sitting in the back of your head and probably means you don't want the ball in your hands during crunch time. If that player does end up taking a crunch time FT, it is likely they are focusing on "not missing the shot", as opposed to just doing their usual routine during the FT shot and not focusing on anything else. 2) I also think the crowd has an impact on your shooting. For the average college bball player, it is hard not to be rattled (whether home or away) when you have an entire arena watching you shoot a FT (not even factoring in crowd noise/distractions). 3) I think when you see good shooters (i.e. guards) who struggle at the FT line, I think they overanalyze their FT shot/form. The best FT shooters are ones that have a sound,consistent technique/form and are able to shoot the ball automatically without thinking about anything else. The one's that struggle from the FT line start playing out scenarios in their head of how to change their FT form after missing 1 FT and aren't able to consistently utilize the same form/technique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Not good ft shooters I saw the numbers once that even good college free throw shooters went down a huge % in crunch time at the end of games. Drop that down to high school and it gets even bigger. The older the kid, the more likely he is to not be affected by distractions or late game situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickadee Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 FT shooting is much more about mental confidence than mechanics IMO. You can have an average Joe hit 99% of FT's with muscle memory but he can't jump more than a couple of inches. Dwight Howard was a 90% FT shooter in high school and he is often mocked now as being a very poor FT shooter. Nothing much really changes mechanically FT shooting as you move up IMO but the situations do. Some people perform much worst in high pressure situations like shooting critical FT's. My impression is that the distractions don't really have any effect overall. It's probably just confirmation bias suggesting that what caused the miss was because of the distraction and not for other reasons (poor FT shooter overall, poor at dealing with pressure situations etc.) FWIW I attribute HC advantage is 80% ref bias + 10% travel +10% actual field difference which of course varies depending on sport/team/field/weather etc. It's not a static number by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Are there any studies out there on penalties called home vs away in all sports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickadee Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 I read this book awhile ago but it pretty much covers what's being discussed in this thread. http://www.amazon.com/Scorecasting-Hidden-Influences-Behind-Sports/dp/0307591808/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1422120485&sr=8-1&keywords=scorecasting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick McIrish Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 For me it was conditioning/concentration. Shot much better FT's early in the game than I would late. And for me the distractions actually helped. Gave me that push to really bear down and make a good effort. All this is situational, some players are going to react better/worse to various things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boatboatboat Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Sure they do It's why coaches have players practice with them in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayGolden Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 I saw the numbers once that even good college free throw shooters went down a huge % in crunch time at the end of games. Drop that down to high school and it gets even bigger. The older the kid, the more likely he is to not be affected by distractions or late game situation Dont tell that to Pomeroy, he refuses to acknowledge the existence of pressure. Clearly he never played any sports beyond little league. If a math guy cant quantify it, it doesnt exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Are there any studies out there on penalties called home vs away in all sports? SI did a study virtually no difference between FT shooting home vs. road home field/court/ice advantage is created by the refs blowing calls to help the home team in every sport, the officiating tends to favor the home team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrigley Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 No I dont think it matters to 99.9 percent of the players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milwaukee mike Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 there was a guy here in milwaukee that would spin a spiral thing right behind the basket, i think those got banned because they were too distracting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBLAZE Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 i think the best distractions would be to put your foot in the line during the shot and pull it back or simply tell the shooter that he cant make them before he shoots but that sometimes can backfire and cause the shooter to focus more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBLAZE Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 here is one more but only if the first free throw is missed. Tell the shooter "the ball never lies" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Arkansas up 1, 3 seconds left, Wes Clark of Missouri fouled and goes to the line (almost 74% on the season) [TABLE=class: mod-data mod-pbp, border: 1] [TR=class: even] [TD=width: 50]0:17[/TD] [TD=colspan: 3]Missouri Timeout[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD=width: 50]0:05[/TD] [TD]Foul on Rashad Madden.[/TD] [TD]61-60[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: even] [TD=width: 50]0:03[/TD] [TD]Foul on Rashad Madden.[/TD] [TD]61-60[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD=width: 50]0:03[/TD] [TD=colspan: 3]Arkansas Timeout[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: even] [TD=width: 50]0:03[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]61-60[/TD] [TD]Wes Clark missed Free Throw.[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD=width: 50]0:03[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]61-60[/TD] [TD]Missouri Deadball Team Rebound.[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: even] [TD=width: 50]0:03[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [TD]61-60[/TD] [TD]Wes Clark missed Free Throw.[/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: odd] [TD=width: 50]0:03[/TD] [TD]Rashad Madden Defensive Rebound.[/TD] [TD]61-60[/TD] [TD] [/TD] [/TR] [TR=class: even] [TD=width: 50]0:00[/TD] [TD=colspan: 3]End of Game[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baseball Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 Yea they can work, sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid at Riviera Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 No one can tell me that there hasn't been at least one time where it hasn't worked. So yes distractions can work but I would say most of the times players aren't bothered by them because they are looking straight at the basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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