milwaukee mike Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 So how do you feel DSI should be rated presently? BAUS C- like try3 suggested on the first downgrade to B sad situation and i hope everyone gets made whole baus what rating would you give? everyone else too? a lot of speculation at this point since we don't know all the facts, and perhaps time will tell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 C- like try3 suggested on the first downgrade to B sad situation and i hope everyone gets made whole baus what rating would you give? everyone else too? a lot of speculation at this point since we don't know all the facts, and perhaps time will tellNot involved and haven't paid much attention..........not been in DSI in past 365 days and not looking to deposit is the reason for no attention, other plates full of ketchup and mustard more concerned with at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguesser Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 C- like try3 suggested on the first downgrade to B sad situation and i hope everyone gets made whole baus what rating would you give? everyone else too? a lot of speculation at this point since we don't know all the facts, and perhaps time will tellI'd probably give them a B-. That's a big enough drop from A+ to indicate something is up, but we don't know what is up yet. Too many people are reporting payouts as usual to support a drop to D, without an agenda being involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Someone found a court order online about him. Something to do with bouncing a $31 check at Walmart. The original Brock. BAUSThere was like a 30 page burial of him when that arose. I believe it was Cwissy(dell dude back then) that posted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Really enjoyed my time at DSI over the years before the change of guard FH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 The owner chickened out and took his ball and went home. The guy lost 10's of millions when he bought nine.com to go on the London stock only to have the uiega get approved 6 months later. He began by making it an invite only place and fire half of his employees. The guy is a family man very respected in Curacao, once he called the prime minister while he was in Aruba to avoid my friends and I from going to prison in Curacao for working without a permit. Anyhow he had made too much money and decided to close. His former employees took over but he didn't wanted to be related so they created a new site with their own backing after he paid out every single client so it became a new operation and their only advantage was having that massive client list to cherry pick from.Interesting. I had forgotten about Nine.com. The new management also used the old betting software that was unique to VIP. However it played out, SBR lost a lot of affiliate revenue when VIP closed up shop. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 There was like a 30 page burial of him when that arose. I believe it was Cwissy(dell dude back then) that posted it.Let’s find it. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Interesting. I had forgotten about Nine.com. The new management also used the old betting software that was unique to VIP. However it played out, SBR lost a lot of affiliate revenue when VIP closed up shop. BAUSYes, the betting software was developed by nine.com. When vip purchased them they tweaked it a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herbie Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 A similar thing happened with the old VIPsports.com group. It included Betgameday.com, Goodasgoldcasino.com, Fivecardcharlie.com and a few others all under the VIPprofits.com affiliate umbrella. I still have some of their Tshirts they’d mail customers. SBR was earning around $250,000 per month from that affiliate sheet. I’m talking like 2004-2006 era. Something happened, and I don’t know the details, but the company split up, and some of that ownership/management team started up GTbets. So the 250k a month affiliate sheet (30% of players losses, roughly) was no more for SBR. Did they give GTbets an A+ rating? Of course not. They got a C- or D. They even promoted the “proceed with caution - this is a new book” mantra. Of course they knew it wasn’t actually a new book. I don’t know for sure, but this DSI situation smells similar. -DSI breaks off on their own, away from BM.-Affiliate sheet gone forever-SBR wants to keep previous sheet going with DSI.-DSI says no-Ratings drop as soon as there is some instance of player complaint. Look, if 5Dimes is taking ~96 hours to pay players via Btc, and they’re an A+ gold star book at SBR....c’mon guys open your eyes here. (For the record I like 5dimes). BAUS I don't A similar thing happened with the old VIPsports.com group. It included Betgameday.com, Goodasgoldcasino.com, Fivecardcharlie.com and a few others all under the VIPprofits.com affiliate umbrella. I still have some of their Tshirts they’d mail customers. SBR was earning around $250,000 per month from that affiliate sheet. I’m talking like 2004-2006 era. Something happened, and I don’t know the details, but the company split up, and some of that ownership/management team started up GTbets. So the 250k a month affiliate sheet (30% of players losses, roughly) was no more for SBR. Did they give GTbets an A+ rating? Of course not. They got a C- or D. They even promoted the “proceed with caution - this is a new book” mantra. Of course they knew it wasn’t actually a new book. I don’t know for sure, but this DSI situation smells similar. -DSI breaks off on their own, away from BM.-Affiliate sheet gone forever-SBR wants to keep previous sheet going with DSI.-DSI says no-Ratings drop as soon as there is some instance of player complaint. Look, if 5Dimes is taking ~96 hours to pay players via Btc, and they’re an A+ gold star book at SBR....c’mon guys open your eyes here. (For the record I like 5dimes). BAUS I loved vipsports and would agree gtbets initial rating was undeserved as I have been playing there from the beginning (well till they cut my limits about five times down to the my current $15 anyhow)... SBR has plenty of problems and their rating guide is clearly no longer the priority but they were still pumping BetDSI (Loshak does, or did up till last week at least, a show discussing line moves with their head bookmaker with an SBR promotional deposit code for example) till these two slow pays came became public a couple weeks ago so I have my doubts that ad revenue wasn't still running. Maybe BetDSI cut ad money/sheets after they started making issues about these two slow pay complaints? Who the fukk knows but, in this case, the nature of the disputes and SBR downgraded seems pretty strongly correlated IMO. I don't think they are a D+ but clearly not an A anymore either. Personally, with bitcoin making quick deposits and withdraws possible again, I'm just going keep my balance low but will keep playing there. Personally I'm going to keep playing there but just keep my balance low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BAUS Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 There was like a 30 page burial of him when that arose. I believe it was Cwissy(dell dude back then) that posted it.https://public.shawneecourt.org/docket/Criminal_4_Thursday.pdf Lol looks like he’s got an arraignment coming up this week! BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 https://public.shawneecourt.org/docket/Criminal_4_Thursday.pdf Lol looks like he’s got an arraignment coming up this week! BAUShttp://cjonline.com/news/local/crime-courts/2017-11-22/police-calls-update-nov-22-2017 Guess this explains why. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Ouch. JOEY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 No I haven’t said it’s a ruse. Maybe that player is suspected of using multi accounts or who knows what? Seems like we’ve only heard one side of the story. I’m not saying rush out and deposit at DSI. I’m just saying there’s no way they’re a D book. Even if they went under, don’t you think a big shop (Bookmaker?) would bail them out? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAUS Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 HR Wager might bail them out. They bailed out Brock Landers. BAUS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HRWager Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 HR Wager might bail them out. They bailed out Brock Landers. BAUSlol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 HR Wager might bail them out. They bailed out Brock Landers. BAUSlol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 HR Wager might bail them out. They bailed out Brock Landers. BAUS BAUS is one sharp motherfucker, knows more about a lot than just about anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I wonder if DSI would even allow Brock to play there at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I wonder if DSI would even allow Brock to play there at this point?I can play ANYWHERE except heritage, they showed me the door after my account was hacked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evade Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Received < $2k within 24 hours. I didn't even want to withdraw but all this panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I can play ANYWHERE except heritage, they showed me the door after my account was hacked. OK pro gambler playing exclusively at 5dimes folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 OK pro gambler playing exclusively at 5dimes folks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Landers Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 OK pro gambler playing exclusively at 5dimes folksI CAN play anywhere except Heritage, this is not in dispute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted December 10, 2017 Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 I CAN play anywhere except Heritage, this is not in disputeWhy don't you have numerous more OUTS then?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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