Balco Posted July 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 So what? Gotta start somewhere. 0.02% of the plastic in the oceans is still a fuckload of plastic. Are you really going to miss plastic straws that much? Are plastic straws really that big of a benefit to society?Well they are a huge benefit to disable people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 So what? Gotta start somewhere. 0.02% of the plastic in the oceans is still a fuckload of plastic. Are you really going to miss plastic straws that much? Are plastic straws really that big of a benefit to society?The point is it's nonsense, banning a small convienence to satisfy an insatiable desire to do "something", and then pat themselves on the back. yea, they did something, but accomplished nothing. Banning city councils would have a 1000 times more benefit to society than banning straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Well they are a huge benefit to disable people. Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 The point is it's nonsense, banning a small convienence to satisfy an insatiable desire to do "something", and then pat themselves on the back. yea, they did something, but accomplished nothing. Banning city councils would have a 1000 times more benefit to society than banning straws. Why are you so adverse to any positive change? How is this going to affect your life negatively? Cleaning up the ocean shouldn't be fucking controversial to common sense individuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Trotter Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 With everything that is wrong with the world, we are worried about straws? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted July 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 With everything that is wrong with the world, we are worried about straws?Seattle and Santa Barbara is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Why are you so adverse to any positive change? How is this going to affect your life negatively? Cleaning up the ocean shouldn't be fucking controversial to common sense individuals.I'm not against anything positive, what you dont get is that it's not "cleaning up the ocean", if they banned a 100 times as much plastic it would still have almost zero effect. The bottom line is there is no need to ban anything, if they're right and it makes sense it'll happen natuarally, if they said "hey, we think straws are unnecessary and we recommend people cut back on their use", I would be all for it. The problem with the crazy left is they get an idea, and then say want to force everyone to adopt it, but they are never willing to even consider ideas from others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 I'm not against anything positive, what you dont get is that it's not "cleaning up the ocean", if they banned a 100 times as much plastic it would still have almost zero effect. The bottom line is there is no need to ban anything, if they're right and it makes sense it'll happen natuarally, if they said "hey, we think straws are unnecessary and we recommend people cut back on their use", I would be all for it. The problem with the crazy left is they get an idea, and then say want to force everyone to adopt it, but they are never willing to even consider ideas from others.So you're saying if there's a bunch of trash on the side of the road, everyone should be able to litter out of their car? Hey, it's not cleaning up the road! Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 So you're saying if there's a bunch of trash on the side of the road, everyone should be able to litter out of their car? Hey, it's not cleaning up the road! Makes sense.Straws dont automatically go into the ocean, proper sanitation practices could result in zero straws in the ocean. probably the best solution to the waste problem in general,and plastics in particular(due to their long life), is to burn it. If these cities mandated that waste be burned(after sorting out valuable recyclables), I would be in favor of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Straws banned at many resorts in Mexico now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 You can also buy stainless steel ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Straws dont automatically go into the ocean, proper sanitation practices could result in zero straws in the ocean. probably the best solution to the waste problem in general,and plastics in particular(due to their long life), is to burn it. If these cities mandated that waste be burned(after sorting out valuable recyclables), I would be in favor of that.Yeah. Just burn it. LOL. Hopefully, they would burn that plastic right next door to you. Make America (smell) Great Again. I'm sure you'd be all in favor of the taxes that would incur in the first place. Uh huh. There are ways to turn plastics into diesel fuel but there's no way a polluter like you would want to pay for that either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 You can also buy stainless steel ones.Hopefully, they can make stainless steel pacifiers too for the people crying over their coveted plastic straws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Yeah. Just burn it. LOL. Hopefully, they would burn that plastic right next door to you. Make America (smell) Great Again. I'm sure you'd be all in favor of the taxes that would incur in the first place. Uh huh. There are ways to turn plastics into diesel fuel but there's no way a polluter like you would want that either.Many large scale industrial/municiple garbage burners exist right now, here in Mn there are a few, it's not like you imply, they do it at very high temps and there is very little pollution. it can be more expensive than landfilling, but it's probably no more expensive than wasting your time collecting recycling that is never used and ends up in landfills anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Many large scale industrial/municiple garbage burners exist right now, here in Mn there are a few, it's not like you imply, they do it at very high temps and there is very little pollution. it can be more expensive than landfilling, but it's probably no more expensive than wasting your time collecting recycling that is never used and ends up in landfills anyway.You're a complete idiot if you think they are currently burning plastic at a recycling center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 "wasting your time collecting recycling that is never used and ends up in landfills anyway" You are so fucking clueless here as usual. I worked in the garbage/recycling industry for 12+ years. Drove a recycling truck. There are many successful companies using recycled products. It's not being wasted. http://www.ecocycle.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 You're a complete idiot if you think they are currently burning plastic at a recycling center. He thinks he’s an expert on every subject on earth because he can use google. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 "wasting your time collecting recycling that is never used and ends up in landfills anyway" You are so fucking clueless here as usual. I worked in the garbage/recycling industry for 12+ years. Drove a recycling truck. There are many successful companies using recycled products. It's not being wasted. http://www.ecocycle.org/Ahh, you're a little out of date, EVERYTHING changed earlier this year when china announced they will stop accepting most of our recycling, what had value a year ago now they have to pay to get rid of, you guys really should keep up with this stuff if it interests you, it's not that hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 You're a complete idiot if you think they are currently burning plastic at a recycling center.They're not burning stuff at recycling centers, they're burning it at garbage burners, where they do a quick sorting/sifting to remove the stuff that wont burn and everything else goes into the kiln. All kinds of plastic is in regular trash you know, a lot of people dont recycle. They should stop most recycling and just burn everything, plastic included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Let's get this out there ..... Please continue copying. . Who here has used a straw in the last month?? I can't tell you last time I used one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Stopped using straws 11 years ago when I gave up coke. Never used them in drinks. Too slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 Let's get this out there ..... Please continue copying. . Who here has used a straw in the last month?? I can't tell you last time I used oneYou go to the bar and order a drink and they give you a stirring straw, sometimes 2, you go to a fast food place and get soda, you get a straw, you go to a restaurant, you get a straw, I prob use/get 20 a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 You go to the bar and order a drink and they give you a stirring straw, sometimes 2, you go to a fast food place and get soda, you get a straw, you go to a restaurant, you get a straw, I prob use/get 20 a week.I don't go to fast food places , haven't for years. I rarely go out to bars either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 I’ll use 2-300 straws bartending this weekend, blame me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger Posted July 27, 2018 Report Share Posted July 27, 2018 I’ll use 2-300 straws bartending this weekend, blame me.Start using wooden coffee stirs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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