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8-13 : Out And About In Vegas- One Mans View From The Inside (Fish @ Skyline)


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Warrick that takes discipline bud. I could never leave the table unless i was really fading out. That's why everything in vegas except the SB is so dangerous. Which is why I quit.

 

The sports punters are not the ones that paid for those big chandeliers, they got there off slots and table players....mainly slots.

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Long day today Dutch' date=' probably a 3am-3am waking day............then Kinger here on Saturday, whew!![/quote']

 

Yeah, I think Kinger thinks I'm Brock incarnate as he won't have a thing to do with me and I invited him several times to get together for lunch or something.

 

I'm starting to think Kinger is one of your ghosts.

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Spending the day with Fishhead was incredible. First off, when I told him I was coming to town, he offered me a free hotel room. I told him no because I didn't want to use up any of his stuff... but he was persistent, to say the least, so I finally I took it because I also didn't want to offend him. He got me a great hotel room. We were down in the VIP casino area hanging out... free drinks, food, raffle tickets... you name it. Guy keeps his eyes on the SportsOptions screen more than anywhere else. He's texting back and forth with his runner and making big plays. We later go to the Plaza, because he had a raffle, as you can see in the video... he wins $500 and doesn't break a sweat. He goes directly to the window, cashes it, and we leave. Oh, and while there, he treated me to the best crab cakes I've ever had. He then shows me around old downtown, and then around 8:55 we head over to Circus Circus to look for The Meatman.

 

Fishhead is one of the nicest men you can meet, and if you ever get the chance, please do. He truly is Mr. Vegas

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Spending the day with Fishhead was incredible. First off, when I told him I was coming to town, he offered me a free hotel room. I told him no because I didn't want to use up any of his stuff... but he was persistent, to say the least, so I finally I took it because I also didn't want to offend him. He got me a great hotel room. We were down in the VIP casino area hanging out... free drinks, food, raffle tickets... you name it. Guy keeps his eyes on the SportsOptions screen more than anywhere else. He's texting back and forth with his runner and making big plays. We later go to the Plaza, because he had a raffle, as you can see in the video... he wins $500 and doesn't break a sweat. He goes directly to the window, cashes it, and we leave. Oh, and while there, he treated me to the best crab cakes I've ever had. He then shows me around old downtown, and then around 8:55 we head over to Circus Circus to look for The Meatman.

 

Fishhead is one of the nicest men you can meet, and if you ever get the chance, please do. He truly is Mr. Vegas

 

Hanging with FISHHEAD in Vegas is + even. :lol

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S We later go to the Plaza' date=' because he had a raffle, as you can see in the video... he wins $500 and doesn't break a sweat. He goes directly to the window, cashes it, and we leave. Oh, and while there, he treated me to the best crab cakes I've ever had. [/quote']

 

Wow, that's funny, considering what I just posted in your thread, KR, about the crab cakes. How the hell can an Iowa guy know where to find that? WTF?

 

I can see Fish writing the ultimate Vegas bible that he only allows to be published upon his death.

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Gambler's Book Store is not the same as Gambler's Book Club, but I guess it kind of is.

 

I used go to GBC every trip to Vegas (this was before the internet, so you really had to do this stuff in person) back when it was over on 11th street. Could and did browse forever. Howard Schwartz was great fun to talk with, too

 

Got some of my best poker advice ever over there. I was just starting out in the game. I'd actually come out to Vegas for 4 months to play the Hilton Contest, and had so much free time between handicapping that I started sitting in poker games to pass the time (I got a split of second place in the Hilton that year, without having a clue about numbers. Couldn't even spell "stale line." But used the payout to start playing poker for a living; never looked back, never went broke).

 

I went in to GBC and after browsing a bit asked the guy to recommend a poker book to me (this was in 87). He said this one, maybe, that one, maybe, but you know, kid, honestly, you should always remember: poker is a game of instinct and you can't get instinct from a book. True then, true now.

 

Other great advice I received early on: chased a flush but checked down on the river when it hit. Old guy (I'm the old guy, now, lol) looks at me and say, "Don't chase nothing you can't bet if it hits, son." Also true then, true now.

 

And here's a third lesson I remember from when I was first getting started: at a 1-4-8 LHE game at Binion's (it was a limit world then), board ends up being 4 spades. I bet, douchebag calls, I show the Ace of spades, he nods, I absentmindedly drop my hand face down, dealer scoops my cards into the muck, ships the other guy the pot, who, yeah, takes it. Welcome to the real world, kid.

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You know, the four major gambling grinds are poker, sports betting, blackjack and AP. I consider myself pretty expert on the first three, but other than once having learned how to properly play Deuces wild VP, I'm clueless about the AP grind. Just on principle, I like learning what it's about, though I'd probably never do it. I don't have the patience for it, but it's interesting.

 

And "expert" on blackjack is past tense. It's been over 20 years since I played a hand. I don't take well to being treated like a criminal when I'm not breaking the law.

 

And, since I'm rambling: I used to love the horses, but you'll notice I left horses off that list of gambling grinds.

 

I knew how to make speed ratings (just prior to, or about the same time, as Beyer was spreading the news). I knew what every smudge and mark on the DRF stood for. I once spent 9 months capping the Maryland/CT circuit full-time and made two something an hour (that might have been minimum wage back then, so don't laugh too loud, and it was after expenses). This was pre-internet, pre-simulcasting, pre-laptops, pre-video replays, and was actually fun. You carefully watched races then. You drove to make bets then. Did crazy things like driving to Delaware Park, Monmouth, like that, to bet horses we thought were ready. I had a partner in crime in this, a girl who had worked for a trainer but who couldn't take the 4 am wake up calls any more and was a degen gambler anyway. It was kind of fun, living a life of diners for dinner, coffee for breakfast, cheap motels for home, the trunk of a car for a closet.

 

But, and here's the thing: I don't think it's plausible to grind out profits in racing any more. Was always difficult; now, with small fields, larger track takes, and possibly major bettors with last-second computerized access to the odds pools, and the ability to bet into them accordingly, I don't think racing is beatable, even with a 7 or 8 % rebate.

 

IIRC, I once had an 8% rebate where I held about 1% on the churn, but got shut down on that. So, I won't include horses on the list of possibly profitable grinds. Just imo, obv.

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