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SHANGHAI (Reuters) - The Shanghai government has said companies in the city are not allowed to resume operations before Feb. 9, an official at the municipality announced at a press conference on Monday.

The measure is applicable to government and private companies but is not applicable to utilities and some other firms such as medical equipment companies and pharmaceutical companies, the official said.

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Very strange, only 50-60 cases in shanghai(officially), yet it's like that, then there was another report that in some province they've set aside 100,000 hospital beds. Is it really bad and spreading or not?

 

Who knows ? Maybe just extreme preventive measures but I don’t see the Chinese gov doing that unless it’s really really bad

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Who knows ? Maybe just extreme preventive measures but I don’t see the Chinese gov doing that unless it’s really really bad

That's what i mean, the whole thing is strange, there's supposedly 5 cases here in the US, but all of them are in people that came from china, why hasn't it spread here?(you would think it would a little). perhaps the chinese govt knows more than they're letting on - such as that the incubation period is fairly long and it's going to explode?

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That's what i mean, the whole thing is strange, there's supposedly 5 cases here in the US, but all of them are in people that came from china, why hasn't it spread here?(you would think it would a little). perhaps the chinese govt knows more than they're letting on - such as that the incubation period is fairly long and it's going to explode?

2 week incubation period is what I’ve heard

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Good thing I bought a huge pack of SARS masks when I came back from China as a joke. Apparently they’re sold out everywhere. Just checked amazon and literally every listing is sold .

 

I should sell them at work for $20 a pop tomorrow

I heard that, I think it was someone here that said they have plenty at building stores like menards, where they use them for sanding,painting, etc.

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N95 masks are typically used on construction sites, but they were commonly worn by Hongkongers during the 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS). “They're very hard to breathe in,” says Ho, 35. ... People wearing masks walk on a street in Kwun Tong district of Hong Kong on Jan. 23, 2020.









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What is a ace hardware dust mask gonna stop?

They are the same quality, most are N-95(the typical 3M mask - if they are labeled n 95, that's their efficiency) , when i worked in pharma, that's what we wore most of the time, we did have N 99.5 for special situations.

 

Try to keep up house.

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Apparently the chinese authorities in Wuhan are keeping the true scale of the epidemic from being known by refusing to test people outside of hospitals, and refusing people from coming to the hospital. Reports are that thousands(or more) who are sick or have family that are sick are being told to stay home, meaning that the true scale of the infection will remain low and unknown.

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 here's a bit about what's really going on over there.

 

But offscreen, China’s virus war is grim. Silent cities sit in a white winter smog that blots out the sky, their silent, empty streets contrasting with the crowded hospitals where doctors and nurses break down because they lack equipment or rooms for the patients squeezed outside their doors.

In rural areas, many villagers blockade and guard village entrances to prevent outsiders — especially Hubei people — from entering.

Online, desperate posts sprout up daily from people begging for help because sick family members are not being admitted into hospitals.

Fear lurks in the background of even healthy people’s minds, inflated by the proximity of death, fragility of loved ones, and most of all by the unknown: where the virus comes from, how it changes, how it spreads, whether one has it or not, and whether authorities are providing the full truth. It is a country of fretful eyes peering out over surgical masks.

For those in China and especially in Wuhan, the tick-tock unease is worsened by uncertainty in what the government says, based on past experience of inaccurate reporting on death numbers and infection rates in other preventable tragedies, including SARS and the Great Leap Forward famine.

National health commissioner Jiao Yahui said at a news briefing Wednesday in Beijing that the issue of insufficient hospital beds was a question of “great importance” and “national concern,” adding that two hospitals are under construction and should provide 2,300 new beds when they are completed in early February.

Other hospitals in Wuhan are also supposed to open up space to patients, Jiao said, providing 10,000 beds in total — “more than enough” for suspected as well as confirmed cases.

But the virus is spreading, and residents in Wuhan with sick family members say they are unable to receive diagnostic tests or secure hospital space for their relatives, even when doctors tell them they are likely infected with the new virus.

A woman in Wuhan surnamed Sun, 32, said in a phone interview that her husband, 34, has been sick since Jan. 15, first with a fever and cough, then with a lung infection that a doctor said was likely caused by the coronavirus.

“Of course we couldn’t guess it was something so bad. We didn’t know,” Sun said, adding that her husband works in Wuhan’s Hankou district, where the Huanan Seafood Market, the suspected source of the coronavirus outbreak, is located.

He’d even attended his company’s Lunar New Year banquet near that market, Sun said, when Chinese officials were still claiming that the virus was not transmissible between humans. Since then, his symptoms have escalated from high fever, coughing and fatigue to breathing problems. Sun’s parents, who live with them, have both caught fevers as well.

Her mother, 65, has developed a lung infection, and her father, 67, who had preexisting health problems including diabetes and high blood pressure, has a similar profile to elderly coronavirus victims who have died.

This whole time, Sun has not been able to get her family tested for the coronavirus, she said, because the doctors told her they had no test kits. Without confirmation of whether her husband has the virus, his death would go unreported as either a new virus case or death.

But her priority now is just to get him into a hospital, no matter how the government wants to classify him.

Ten days ago, Sun filled out an application for her husband’s hospitalization. The city has since designated specific hospitals for suspected coronavirus patients. That means she has to register her husband with a neighborhood committee first, which then reports the name to the hospital.

Every day is a disconcerting maze: The hospital tells Sun that her husband’s name is not on the list. She goes to the committee, which insists they reported his name. She asks the hospital, which says: no name. She goes back to the committee, and repeats the cycle.

Meanwhile, her husband can’t catch his breath.

“We’ve been telling the hospital, and they say, ‘There’s nothing we can do,’” she said.

Sun said she’d just bought an oxygen device that aids breathing on Wednesday, and was reading its instruction manual. Two days ago, she sent her 3-year-old daughter to her sister’s apartment, choosing to separate from her child rather than risk her getting sick.

At home, Sun self-isolates in a separate room from her stricken husband, mother and father. She asks for help online several times a day.

Yesterday, her daughter started having a fever, too.

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(Los Angeles Times staff writer Cindy Chang contributed

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