tailsyoulose Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 That's exactly how it has to happen. People have to work and not many will put up with being told they can't leave their homes. do you have any idea what happens when the health care system gets overloaded beyond its capacity? because i dont. but i imagine it involves a shitload of violence, riots, and total breakdown of social order, which would take years to come back from. the us would never look the same after an event like that. a death rate in the millions, rather than the thousands. horrible, horrible advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 do you have any idea what happens when the health care system gets overloaded beyond its capacity? because i dont. but i imagine it involves a shitload of violence, riots, and total breakdown of social order, which would take years to come back from. the us would never look the same after an event like that. a death rate in the millions, rather than the thousands. horrible, horrible advice.It's not advice. It's reality. People aren't going to be staying home from work out of caution. They'll stay home from work when they're infected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailsyoulose Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 The reality is that this thing isn't going to be contained. People can wish for it, but it's not going to happen. containment means flatten the curve to allow our system to handle the cases as they come. there is a HUGE difference between 1 million cases over the course of six months, versus 1 million in a single day. just like there is a difference between taking the elevator down 10 floors versus jumping out a ten story window. you are a trader - have you never read taleb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 containment means flatten the curve to allow our system to handle the cases as they come. there is a HUGE difference between 1 million cases over the course of six months, versus 1 million in a single day. just like there is a difference between taking the elevator down 10 floors versus jumping out a ten story window. you are a trader - have you never read taleb?I understand that but it's a pipe dream to think that people aren't going to go to work. Most people live paycheck to paycheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailsyoulose Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 People aren't going to be staying home from work out of caution. they need to. the message needs to be put out loud and clear. this is our generations WW2. whatever economic hit we have to take, we will have to endure it. the alternative is total ruin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 they need to. the message needs to be put out loud and clear. this is our generations WW2. whatever economic hit we have to take, we will have to endure it. the alternative is total ruin.Not gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 I highly doubt that sort of lockdown is going to happen in the United States. The idea of containment will be abandoned at some point and business will return to normal then.yea, but for the sake of hundreds of thousands dead, dont you have to try to contain it? it will work, once people are scared enough they will self quarantine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 yea, but for the sake of hundreds of thousands dead, dont you have to try to contain it? it will work, once people are scared enough they will self quarantine.Try, yes. Do? Not likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 They shut my brothers building down in Chicago last night for a nice deep cleaning. They told him to work from home. I come into work this AM and the score radio station is broadcasting from the building. Thought damn, pretty efficient job by the cleaning crew to get that big place all cleaned up by 5am. He then comes into my work to infect me. thanks alot.The problem with this deep cleaning nonsense that they show all over, schools, public bldgs, etc, is that janitors who wear nothing but gloves are doing the cleaning, if there is virus there, they will get it. then they go home and spread it to everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Try, yes. Do? Not likely.italy is 2 weeks ahead of us on the virus path, if what they've done starts to work, we will do it here. But right now, none of us knows for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 The most workable solution to me is that the elderly and retired self quarantine and avoid contact with everyone else as much as possible since the vast majority of them don't work anyway. Start delivery services for sanitized/disinfected food and other products for them. Keep the virus away from the most susceptible. The rest are going to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 The most workable solution to me is that the elderly and retired self quarantine and avoid contact with everyone else as much as possible since the vast majority of them don't work anyway. Start delivery services for sanitized/disinfected food and other products for them. Keep the virus away from the most susceptible. The rest are going to work.I agree, but the caretakers are the problem, the staff is the weak link. I'm talking nursing homes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasson621 Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 I can't go to Santa Anita Saturday, I am surprised more tracks aren't necessary personnel only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 I agree, but the caretakers are the problem, the staff is the weak link. I'm talking nursing homes.Yeah. They'd have to suit up and get tested regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 gonna miss my 5 plays a week fukk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Can't think about when things will be "normal" againHas to be monthsGREAT thing for you there are no sports to wager on. Each and every dollar you scrape up, which you would have LOST betting on March madness next week. Those dollars can now go to TJD, Rito, Joey and me. You had the tax refund money to settle us. But you lied. Gambled and lost it all. Now with it so quiet. Plenty of time for you to get a job. Then pay the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Dump it all in equities. Record prices in the fall. Who need MLB? I'm guaranteed bout 1.3 mill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyz Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Which comes first? "normal" or you repaying those Super Bowl bets youre currently stiffing?No gambling distractions for him now. He would have clearly been wagering and losing his unemployment checks on March madness. Now he can begin to pay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 I agree, but the caretakers are the problem, the staff is the weak link. I'm talking nursing homes. Yep. And what happens when they stop going to work. Horrible to think about having a loved one in skilled nursing. I do think monkey is right that manypeople will go to work because they have to, but if they are guaranteed a paycheck for a couple weeks or if they have to stay home because their kids are home from school, I don’t know....won’t be pretty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailsyoulose Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 Dump it all in equities. Record prices in the fall. Who need MLB? I'm guaranteed bout 1.3 mill. sometimes i actually like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 1-0 bottom of the first. Billy thinks it's 17-0 in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailsyoulose Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 1-0 bottom of the first. Billy thinks it's 17-0 in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs.I like Billy's side of this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 I like Billy's side of this one.There are already huge reasons the market will soar after there's more certainty with the outbreak. Insanely low interest rates coupled with insanely low energy prices. That means investor money goes to equities, companies have access to cheap capital, and their expenses are low. Add in the stimulus that will come from Congress shortly and the markets will have a huge bounce after the economy gets going again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tailsyoulose Posted March 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 There are already huge reasons the market will soar after there's more certainty with the outbreak. Insanely low interest rates coupled with insanely low energy prices. That means investor money goes to equities, companies have access to cheap capital, and their expenses are low. Add in the stimulus that will come from Congress shortly and the markets will have a huge bounce after the economy gets going again.You're correct. But that's after we hit bottom. I peg the bottom at about 12,000. Have fun catching that falling knife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted March 12, 2020 Report Share Posted March 12, 2020 You're correct. But that's after we hit bottom. I peg the bottom at about 12,000. Have fun catching that falling knife.No way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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