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Fauci: ‘We Don’t Have Time’ to Run Clinical Trials for Updated Boosters

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National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony Fauci testifies before the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee about the ongoing response to the COVID-19 pandemic in the Dirksen Senate Office Building on Capitol Hill in Washington on Nov. 4, 2021. (Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)


By Zachary Stieber
September 9, 2022


Dr. Anthony Fauci is claiming that there was not enough time to wait for clinical trial data before clearing updated COVID-19 booster shots.

“We don’t have time to do a clinical trial because we need to get the vaccine out now,” Fauci said on CBC this week, pointing to how about 400 Americans are dying per day with COVID-19 and thousands of others are in hospitals with the disease.

The updated boosters, made by Pfizer and Moderna, were authorized by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Aug. 31 and subsequently recommended for virtually all Americans 12 and older by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Both shots contain elements of the Wuhan, BA.4, and BA.5 virus variants. No human data was or is available for the formulations. Pfizer and Moderna presented data on preclinical testing, done on mice. They also referenced human data for a different formulation, combinations of the Wuhan and BA.1 strains.

Since BA.5 is the dominant variant in the United States, “you have every reason to believe that [the updated formulation] is going to be better than having a vaccine that isn’t highly specific to the circulating strain,” Fauci said. “That hasn’t been proven in a clinical trial,” he acknowledged.

Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, isn’t part of the U.S. regulatory or recommendation process on vaccines but his comments are followed closely by millions of Americans. The institute he heads runs clinical trials and does other work.


Fauci was echoing other top U.S. officials, including CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky.

Walensky said on “Conversations on Health Care” during a segment broadcast on Aug. 29 that waiting for human data would leave the boosters outdated.

“If we wait for those data to emerge in human data, not just mice data, we will be using what I would consider to be a potentially outdated vaccine,” she said.

Officials have been hedging, though, on how well they think the boosters will work.

“The idea here is not just to increase the antibodies right now, but also to hopefully give us a longer duration of protection because the hope here is not to have to give lots of vaccines each year,” Dr. Peter Marks, a top FDA vaccine official, told reporters in a call after the agency authorized the boosters.
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Dr. Harvey Risch, professor emeritus of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health, in New York on July 7, 2022. (Bao Qiu)‘Reckless’


Dr. Harvey Risch, a professor of epidemiology at the Yale School of Public Health, said that Fauci’s comments were “reckless” in light of the fact that regulators didn’t rush to have vaccine companies update the vaccines during previous periods, such as when the Delta variant was dominant in 2021.

He also criticized Walensky’s remarks, pointing to how the CDC’s variant monitoring shows that BA.4.6, which is not part of the updated boosters, is growing in proportion in recent weeks.

“By the time that a supposed new winter wave of infections would occur in late November or December, it will likely be BA.4.6 and the new booster will be outdated anyway,” Risch told The Epoch Times via email.

Even if BA.5 were still dominant in the future, the duration of benefit will likely not be much better than the current booster, which only provides an increase in protection for several weeks, Risch added, referencing a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Data the CDC presented during a recent meeting also showed that vaccine effectiveness is down significantly against Omicron and its subvariants, which include BA.4.6 and BA.5, including against severe disease.

While some experts have said they support how the United States authorized the new boosters with a dearth of data, others have said that the decision wasn’t warranted.

“Basically, we’re playing in a sandbox of unknown benefits and unknown risks, because they don’t have clinical trials,” Dr. Vinay Prasad, an epidemiologist at the University of California, San Francisco, said in a video. The United States should have required randomized, controlled trials before clearing the boosters, he added.






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How many more need to die?

Teen Suffers Heart Attack After Cross Country Race, Baffled Doctors Find 2 Blood Clots and Blocked Artery

 By Jack Davis  September 17, 2022 at 9:35am

A 17-year-old Tennessee athlete suffered a heart attack last week during a meet held in Florida.

Runner Gabe Higginbottom was competing in Pensacola on Sept. 10 when after a race he said something was wrong, his coach Kris Harman said, according to WREG-TV. Higginbottom is currently recovering in a Florida hospital.

“He started complaining about his chest hurting and kept complaining and we went to the trainer’s tent,” Harman said. “Everybody initially thinks it’s hot, it’s heat exhaustion so give him ice but he’s still complaining about his chest.”

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Woke up this morning and turned on the radio to a "ask the dr" program - there was a never ending stream of people saying that they  had covid 1-2-3 months ago and want to know when they can be vaccinated. :laugh

The pro vaccine dr kept saying, wait a month or two after you're completely recovered and then go ahead, amazing.

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12 minutes ago, milwaukee mike said:

not just worthless... as i said from day 1, the vaccines CREATED variants

just like the flu vaccine creates flu outbreaks... i would bet every dollar i own that if we went a year with no flu vaccines in the us, there would be almost no people getting the flu

 

I didn't use to believe that but now I do. :hat

I just talked to my brother and he told me they all had covid, said his wife was "really sick", I asked what that meant and he said she had a bad sore throat, a cough, and felt real shitty. That's pretty much how everyone feels when they're sick - but when you have covid you get to dramatize it. Anyway they're all better now.

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4 minutes ago, mikeman said:

I didn't use to believe that but now I do. :hat

I just talked to my brother and he told me they all had covid, said his wife was "really sick", I asked what that meant and he said she had a bad sore throat, a cough, and felt real shitty. That's pretty much how everyone feels when they're sick - but when you have covid you get to dramatize it. Anyway they're all better now.

the 1 good thing about "covid" is that more people have woken up to the fact that vaccines are NOT a good thing

childhood vaccine schedule went nutso at exactly the same time that autism, add, adhd, bipolar, and other disorders went nutso

 

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