Guest pocketrockets Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Not a fan per sé but feel bad for the guy. Hung himself on also deceased Chris Cornell's would-be bday. They were pals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyRuder Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 thanks TMZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Ow wow. That sucks. RIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Wow, that does suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pocketrockets Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Leaves a wife and 6 kids... rip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balco Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Never heard of the prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 another coward leaving his wife and kids with the pain and suffering of his selfishness. if you take on the responsibility of children, don't be a pussy and kill yourself. seek as much help as possible. clinical depression is not the end nor is an excuse to end your life and put your family through all the pain and suffering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pocketrockets Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Geez.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 rocket's you feel bad for the wrong person/people pal. There's no reason to feel bad for him. He had more resources to get help than 99.99% of the world population. He left little kids behind by selfishly taking his life. no one is arguing about the pain depression brings, but life is a fight and he had a better chance of punching back than 99% of people who suffer from depression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVU Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Timely is correct here. Suicide is the worst answer to anyone's problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pocketrockets Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 rocket's you feel bad for the wrong person/people pal. There's no reason to feel bad for him. He had more resources to get help than 99.99% of the world population. He left little kids behind by selfishly taking his life. no one is arguing about the pain depression brings, but life is a fight and he had a better chance of punching back than 99% of people who suffer from depression. I understand where you are coming from... we all have seen depression and addiction in different ways... but thats why I dont argue nor I believe your opinion is wrong; maybe a lil harsh... your opinion is your opinion... and we all have the right to have one. I for one, I dont try and judge nor question the whys and the what ifs... dont know the guy, never will... and I wasnt really a fan, I am just very empathetic for tortured depressed souls who found refuge in singing and making music/art... I know what it feels like when all the darkness steams away as soon as you start playing in front of people... Im all for the cause thats all... Dont like Linkin Park, never did really, my gf in high school loved them... I was royally pissed when STP decided to record an EP with this guy cause Im a Scott Weiland fan. Feel for his family more than him cause yeah, thats fuckin horrible, and 6 kids... SIX... but I dont know what kind of struggle this guy was having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKolzig Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 probably more drug abuse. felt he never had the strength to quit so it just psyched him out and he very trapped.............if he did have depression drug abuse would make it 5x worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The X Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 I understand where you are coming from... we all have seen depression and addiction in different ways... but thats why I dont argue nor I believe your opinion is wrong; maybe a lil harsh... your opinion is your opinion... and we all have the right to have one. I for one, I dont try and judge nor question the whys and the what ifs... dont know the guy, never will... and I wasnt really a fan, I am just very empathetic for tortured depressed souls who found refuge in singing and making music/art... I know what it feels like when all the darkness steams away as soon as you start playing in front of people... Im all for the cause thats all... Dont like Linkin Park, never did really, my gf in high school loved them... I was royally pissed when STP decided to record an EP with this guy cause Im a Scott Weiland fan. Feel for his family more than him cause yeah, thats fuckin horrible, and 6 kids... SIX... but I dont know what kind of struggle this guy was having.i have witnessed severe depression as close as possible as my mother suffered and was hospitalized on and off for one year. 2 decades later, she is happy and living a good life; she found her escape not with medication but exercise. she was a very successful woman so i know money does not matter; that said, she didn't quit on her family. when you take on responsibility, your pain is bigger than what you feel for yourself. you have a responsibility to fight through the struggles. fuck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Timely, some of these people have brain injuries making life unbearable.... what do you think about former sports figures who kill themselves and then it is found that they have ECT, are they also selfish as you claim. Have you seen the movie concussion? Do you think those guys really wanted to die? Do you think anyone really wants to die and doesn't agonize about the pain they will cause? You cannot possibly understand the pain some of these people go through and the agony they are dealing with. Not all depression or brain injuries are treatable. In belgium those suffering from chronic untreatable depression have the right to die with medical assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pocketrockets Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Timely, some of these people have brain injuries making life unbearable.... what do you think about former sports figures who kill themselves and then it is found that they have ECT, are they also selfish as you claim. Have you seen the movie concussion? Do you think those guys really wanted to die? Do you think anyone really wants to die and doesn't agonize about the pain they will cause? You cannot possibly understand the pain some of these people go through and the agony they are dealing with. Not all depression or brain injuries are treatable. In belgium those suffering from chronic untreatable depression have the right to die with medical assistance. well put man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 When they get to that point they have convinced themselves that their family and friends will be truly better off without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 “To keep someone alive against their wishes is the ultimate indignity,” Stephen Hawking Ultimately it is selfish to force someone to live in pain just to spare yourself some hurt. If you love someone you need to let them go if their pain is unbearable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 this is much more civilized: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Hitting Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 Timely, some of these people have brain injuries making life unbearable.... what do you think about former sports figures who kill themselves and then it is found that they have ECT, are they also selfish as you claim. Have you seen the movie concussion? Do you think those guys really wanted to die? Do you think anyone really wants to die and doesn't agonize about the pain they will cause? You cannot possibly understand the pain some of these people go through and the agony they are dealing with. Not all depression or brain injuries are treatable. In belgium those suffering from chronic untreatable depression have the right to die with medical assistance.he doesn't have cte, and while I have no clue for certain - likely based on his industry and profession his depression was amplified by his drug addiction. CTE is PHYSICAL damage to the brain causing you to lose control of your anger and also can impair your speech/intelligence/vision and can cause dramatic memory loss. Comparing CTE to depression is wrong, imo. Depression is a mental illness, that can be reoccurring but is not permanent; you do not feel depressed and sad every moment of your life. Depression can be amplified by drug use, but it can also be treated with things as small as exercise, or in other cases medicine. It cannot be cured per se, but it can be treated. depression is a beatable battle in all cases even if it takes years and years; CTE can not be beaten, it is permanent brain damage. Depression is a mental illness that can last a lifetime, but it lasts in bouts. you need to fight through the bouts. with proper medication, therapy, etc etc the damage caused by depression can be minimized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest pocketrockets Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 When they get to that point they have convinced themselves that their family and friends will be truly better off without them. +1 pretty much is such a extreme decision... I have been on the lowest of the low and yes while I think about "doing it" I think about family and how shitty things are, but ultimately figure this shit is just prolonging the suffering and once you are gone theyll recever and carry on still I didnt do it. still think there might be hope but yeah, thats basically the rationale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackJack Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 he doesn't have cte, and while I have no clue for certain - likely based on his industry and profession his depression was amplified by his drug addiction. CTE is PHYSICAL damage to the brain causing you to lose control of your anger and also can impair your speech/intelligence/vision and can cause dramatic memory loss. Comparing CTE to depression is wrong, imo. Depression is a mental illness, that can be reoccurring but is not permanent; you do not feel depressed and sad every moment of your life. Depression can be amplified by drug use, but it can also be treated with things as small as exercise, or in other cases medicine. It cannot be cured per se, but it can be treated. we have no way of knowing whether or not he had done damage to his brain through drug abuse, have you considered that possibility? or perhaps he had a brain disease like lewy body dementia like Robin Williams, was Robin Williams also a coward? This system in belgium where things are discussed among family and doctor's seems to me to be the way to go, the rest of the world forces people to do the unthinkable. 1) constant and unbearable suffering 2) situation is incurable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pocketrockets Posted July 20, 2017 Report Share Posted July 20, 2017 https://www.alternativenation.net/chris-cornells-widow-reacts-chester-benningtons-death/ Chris Cornell’s widow Vicky has tweeted regarding Linkin Park and Stone Temple Pilots frontman Chester Bennington’s death, “Just when I thought my heart couldn’t break any more…..I love you T.” Bennington was good friends with Chris and Vicky Cornell, enough so that he was even the godfather to their son Chris Jr. Bennington performed “Hallelujah” at Chris Cornell’s funeral in May, and was seen consoling the family. Below are photos of Chester at Chris Jr.’s baptism, a photo of Chester and Chris with Toni Cornell, and a photo of Chester and Chris with their wives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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