rito Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Curious...Those of you who are using Keto for weight loss reasons, do you really think it’s a Keto formula or are you running a calorie deficit? Since the fat satiates you, I have seen it speculated that is that the real reason people lose weight on Keto after the first week...it’s just natural to eat far less...especially since Keto stops many cravings. Do you guys count calories? Does your macro formula have a calorie limit/goal? Would be interested to know how many calories Rito in particular is eating, as doesn’t seem he eats much other than a Ribeye every day. Kinger was doing calorie counting and losing before. Kinger...are you eating more, less or same amount of calories on Keto?I eat maybe 2lbs of meat and 6 eggs a day with a ton of cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Monkey 100% correct. Easy to gain a shit ton of water weight in a day. Did a 50 day low carb diet for a weight loss contest earlier this year. I gained 7+ lbs in one day after after going off it. Which was like 5% of my body weight no he isn't a combination of many things lead to drastic overnight water weight gain and a person his size would have to have a kidney issue or a pre existing severe glycogen condition. One can of soda cannot, on its own be responsible a 4 pound weight gain. If that science exists then 3 sodas would precipitate a twelve pound weight gain. 12 sodas an overnight gain of nearly 50 lbs. so it's a combination of many things and base on the kids size, 4 pounds is still indicative of an underlying issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Water in our bodies doesn't just come from liquids, genius. The sugar (glucose) in one soda (which is about the recommended daily allowance) creates an insulin response and creates the glycogen. Less talking, more reading: https://justinowings.com/understanding-bodyweight-and-glycogen-de/ Answer the questions or prove somehow that one can of soda can increase the bodyweight of a small man by 4 pounds. Don't gimme that link. It has nothing in it that supports your claim. I don't even need to click it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 no he isn't a combination of many things lead to drastic overnight water weight gain and a person his size would have to have a kidney issue or a pre existing severe glycogen condition. One can of soda cannot, on its own be responsible a 4 pound weight gain. If that science exists then 3 sodas would precipitate a twelve pound weight gain. 12 sodas an overnight gain of nearly 50 lbs. so it's a combination of many things and base on the kids size, 4 pounds is still indicative of an underlying issue.A can of soda or high carb stuff + normal eating and water drinking absolutely can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 So to conclude ingesting 140 calories glucose into a potentially hypoglocemic body will cause a rapid increase in the level. Can you potentially gain water weight? Yes. Without many other pre existing abnormalities can one can of soda add 4 pounds of soda weight? no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 But that is a perfect example of why you should go to a professional for dietary advice.I know quite a bit about it...have done Atkins, and lazy/dirty Keto off and on in the past....had a friend walk me thru the finer points but decided I probably was not going to be able to be too strict on the macros thing...I have no problem staying under 20 grams of carbs...but lining up the other stuff is tough. I was just thinking that when I’ve done it, my appetite is suppressed so much that I don’t know if it’s the keto causing weight loss or just the reduced calories. Wondering if I ate the same amount of calories in the form of a carbs/protein/fat mixture if the results wouldn’t be the same. I will say the times I’ve been rigid and then had a high carb meal, the scale can easily show a severe weight gain the following day. Obviously a can of soda is not going to result in a gain of 4lbs of fat/actual weight, but the scale will show it anyway...probably water weight, but it can take days to get it off....at least that was my experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 no he isn't a combination of many things lead to drastic overnight water weight gain and a person his size would have to have a kidney issue or a pre existing severe glycogen condition. One can of soda cannot, on its own be responsible a 4 pound weight gain. If that science exists then 3 sodas would precipitate a twelve pound weight gain. 12 sodas an overnight gain of nearly 50 lbs. so it's a combination of many things and base on the kids size, 4 pounds is still indicative of an underlying issue.That's not how it works, moron. It's not a linear relationship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Answer the questions or prove somehow that one can of soda can increase the bodyweight of a small man by 4 pounds. Don't gimme that link. It has nothing in it that supports your claim. I don't even need to click it.Read the fucking article, dipshit. It says everything you are clueless about and includes references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Or stay ignorant. I really don't give a fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 A can of soda or high carb stuff + normal eating and water drinking absolutely can. Some science please with supporting numbers. Before and after blood sugar, before and after triglyceride bloods, before and after sodium, potassium bloods. Please answer how much water weight will you gain if you drink 6.7 sodas. It's not the soda. If I go to the fridge right now and drink 1 of Mum's ginger ales will I gain a guaranteed 4 pounds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Moron alert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 I know quite a bit about it...have done Atkins, and lazy/dirty Keto off and on in the past....had a friend walk me thru the finer points but decided I probably was not going to be able to be too strict on the macros thing...I have no problem staying under 20 grams of carbs...but lining up the other stuff is tough. I was just thinking that when I’ve done it, my appetite is suppressed so much that I don’t know if it’s the keto causing weight loss or just the reduced calories. Wondering if I ate the same amount of calories in the form of a carbs/protein/fat mixture if the results wouldn’t be the same. I will say the times I’ve been rigid and then had a high carb meal, the scale can easily show a severe weight gain the following day. Obviously a can of soda is not going to result in a gain of 4lbs of fat/actual weight, but the scale will show it anyway...probably water weight, but it can take days to get it off....at least that was my experience. Not 4 pounds I The reason you gained anything more than the caloric ingestion of 1 soda is not the soda. It's what you did to your body before the soda and that has to be extremely drastic to accomplish anything near that kind of gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Not 4 pounds I The reason you gained anything more than the caloric ingestion of 1 soda is not the soda. It's what you did to your body before the soda and that has to be extremely drastic to accomplish anything near that kind of gain.LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Not 4 pounds I The reason you gained anything more than the caloric ingestion of 1 soda is not the soda. It's what you did to your body before the soda and that has to be extremely drastic to accomplish anything near that kind of gain. I am not the one who drank a soda. I was referring to a high carb meal. Chinese Food actually...so obviously also high in sodium. But you definitely can gain that kind of water weight overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Can anyone answer the question? If I gained 4 pounds of water weight overnight from 1 soda containing 140 calories of glucose, how many pounds of water weight will I gain overnight if I drink 11 cans of soda. If your answer is not 44 pounds then it is not just the soda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 I am not the one who drank a soda. I was referring to a high carb meal. Chinese Food actually...so obviously also high in sodium. But you definitely can gain that kind of water weight overnight. Sure you can. Easy. Especially a woman. Not from I can of soda ingested into an otherwise healthy body. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 I can’t speak to the soda....but you can definitely gain 4 lbs per scale....water /whatever overnight without ingesting an excess 14,000 calories. Again, have no idea about the soda deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Shit Munkee's a woman. Well ain't that some shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 I can’t speak to the soda....but you can definitely gain 4 lbs per scale....water /whatever overnight without ingesting an excess 14,000 calories. Again, have no idea about the soda deal. Absolutely. I've had to make weight and seen others have to make or lose weight for years. 4 pounds is easy Constipate yourself, eat a big plate of noodles, a few spoons of raw honey mixed with salt and sleep in a cold room. Go make weight, take a shit, have a nap in a warm room, lie in the sauna. Gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Anyone the size of Munkee who gains 4 pounds of water overnight should go get some blood work and their kidneys checked. That ain't good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Sick burn, bro. Maybe there's a thread around here you haven't trashed with your ignorance yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybagadonuts Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 You’re just being pedantic, billy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovacsbar Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Sick burn, bro. Maybe there's a thread around here you haven't trashed with your ignorance yet. I sent your premise to someone who can give me a straight answer, just to clarify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 I sent your premise to someone who can give me a straight answer, just to clarify.Great. Don't give a fuck. It's not all over the Internet, biology books, or verified in this very thread by joey, Jorge, and IAG or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTiger Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 You’re just being pedantic, billy. in this case, it's worse than that. Pedantic implies some scholarly knowledge/effort. I don't know if he is getting there. He didn't get the thing with the non-linear relationship between the soda consumption and the weight gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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