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Just now, MonkeyF0cker said:

You're stuck thinking that it's an issue of Democrats vs. Republicans and not corruption vs. justice.

Welcome to 2016.

2016 is where you are and where I was before. 
 

I’ve moved on from that because while I agree about corruption v Justice, the bigger issue is about resources. 
 

And if the Republicans are going to be selfish/stingy and not help people, then Dems are gonna win by default and allowed to go too psycho. 
 

But people like you let the Republicans play them by focusing on stuff that while important, isn’t the most important. Because sure, it’s great if we can stamp out corruption entirely, but not if we go back to the other side being more corrupt n still not doing enough for people. 
 

Play to win; then play to change. 

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1 minute ago, Machiavelli said:

2016 is where you are and where I was before. 
 

I’ve moved on from that because while I agree about corruption v Justice, the bigger issue is about resources. 
 

And if the Republicans are going to be selfish/stingy and not help people, then Dems are gonna win by default and allowed to go too psycho. 
 

But people like you let the Republicans play them by focusing on stuff that while important, isn’t the most important. Because sure, it’s great if we can stamp out corruption entirely, but not if we go back to the other side being more corrupt n still not doing enough for people. 
 

Play to win; then play to change. 

And that just proves how much of a libtard you really are while trying to claim that you're independent.

Helping people isn't handing people money.

Tough love is necessary today more than ever for a bunch of lazy and entitled dipshit Americans who take no responsibility for themselves.

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3 minutes ago, El Chapo2017 said:

Lmao!

Anybody posting anything by Josh Hawley, who expects to be taken seriously, is a Stupid Motherfukker...

If the shoe fits, etc...

Hawley had a strong future. 
That thumbs up on J6 ruined it. 
 

Plus, like all these other firm right people, he uses his sharpness to stay firmly right and cheerlead the echo chamber. 

Which doesn’t help most people. 

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1 minute ago, MonkeyF0cker said:

And that just proves how much of a libtard you really are while trying to claim that you're independent.

Helping people isn't handing people money.

Tough love is necessary today more than ever for a bunch of lazy and entitled dipshit Americans who take no responsibility for themselves.

Where did I state just handing people money? 
 

There are a ton of ways to help, and your extremeness is emblematic of the firm right and and why the left gets to win by default, go a bit psycho n write the rules. 
 

But you’d rather lose on principle then win n change. 

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Just now, Machiavelli said:

Where did I state just handing people money? 
 

There are a ton of ways to help, and your extremeness is emblematic of the firm right and and why the left gets to win by default, go a bit psycho n write the rules. 
 

But you’d rather lose on principle then win n change. 

What "help" are you referring to that doesn't involve just handing people money?

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Just now, MonkeyF0cker said:

What "help" are you referring to that doesn't involve just handing people money?

Health care for one. 
 

But creating more jobs programs, or even tightening up welfare/food stamp systems that require more job training and such. 

A million ways to influence current programs in a more conservative fashion while still showing compassion. 
 

Bush’s “Compassionate Conservatism” was an excellent platform for conservatives to hold power while still helping people. 
 

You think anything remotely “socialist” means everyone advocates for the extremity of such, but I strongly disagree and see it as American to uplift our people as we can. 
 

And when conservatives lead the way responsibly, then we can have a strong nation and uplifted people. Why should it be one or the other? 

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5 minutes ago, Machiavelli said:

Health care for one. 
 

But creating more jobs programs, or even tightening up welfare/food stamp systems that require more job training and such. 

A million ways to influence current programs in a more conservative fashion while still showing compassion. 
 

Bush’s “Compassionate Conservatism” was an excellent platform for conservatives to hold power while still helping people. 
 

You think anything remotely “socialist” means everyone advocates for the extremity of such, but I strongly disagree and see it as American to uplift our people as we can. 
 

And when conservatives lead the way responsibly, then we can have a strong nation and uplifted people. Why should it be one or the other? 

Because we ever get less socialist.  Right?

If you actually think subsidizing unhealthy and poor people's health care isn't giving money away while doing absolutely nothing to solve the inherent costs of healthcare, you really don't have a clue.

George W Bush was the worst President of my lifetime before Joe Biden.

Go figure you like both of them.

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Just now, MonkeyF0cker said:

Because we ever get less socialist.  Right?

If you actually think subsidizing unhealthy and poor people's health care isn't giving money away while doing absolutely nothing to solve the inherent costs of healthcare, you really don't have a clue.

George W Bush was the worst President of my lifetime before Joe Biden.

Go figure you like both of them.

You’ve been sold a Bill of Goods that MAGA is a pure agenda. 

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1 minute ago, Machiavelli said:

Yes, but I’m glad the one was fired. 
If the other does their job correctly, then that’s all that matters. 
 

I can still be Sex > Gender n want someone to succeed in their role. 

So you think they were actually hired because they were the most qualified candidates?  LOL.

That's what you voted for.  Own it.

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Just now, MonkeyF0cker said:

So you think they were actually hired because they were the most qualified candidates?  LOL.

That's what you voted for.  Own it.

I voted for Biden because Trump failed to earn a 2nd vote of mine. I don’t have to agree with everything he does or who he hires. 
 

But his overall vision to lead out of the pandemic is better than where we’d be under Trump. 
 

Just need to be patient as all this new stuff gets going. He had quite a mess to clean. 

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