tripp Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Lose your best defensive player for a 3rd in 2017 instead of 18?From reports they were tired of Collins going off script on the field. Guess he was getting a bit full of himself and felt he didnt need to follow the play and BB wasnt having any of it Belicheck of course is huge on everyone buying in and just doing their job, no heroes. Collins was just doing what he wanted too often. Again if you believe the reports, maybe its not true but would make sense on why they dealt him if BB was tired of him and couldnt trust him to do what the play called for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mofome Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Put him on the bench. I doubt he made a massive change this year. Not much to get when you are sb or bust and he's your most impactful defensive presence. Maybe they should have kept jones. Could probably get a 4th for Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Deem I'll clean your clock on any topic and everyone here knows it, especially you. Save the bravado for the kids. To say Wentz hasn't been consistent is simply ignorant.Bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Deemer, wtf are you rambling about? Relax, kid. You said Wentz is incredibly inconsistent, that's wrong. I explained to you that it's wrong. My opinion is worth nothing but yours is? I wasn't writing anything, I was reading a pm. Per an unbiased source, PFF, Wentz is the 4th best QB in the league. Wentz is the most accurate QB in the NFL v the blitz. He's consistent. He's very good. You were wrong, so I stated as much. Pretty simple. The only arrogance has been on your end. I should be in any thread I want, unlike most, I don't speak unless I know what I'm talking about. With family in the Browns front office, I have some idea as to what's going on there. With a godfather who coached Favre and coached QBs longer than you've been alive, I've got another decent source. With a cousin who is the director of pro personnel for an NFL football team, I'd say I have another decent source. I didn't say anything about the Browns, kido. You've made a fool of yourself. Fortunately for you, I'm not interested in exploiting it. pff v deemNFL coaches v deemEveryone with eyes v deem Wentz is very good, he's not incredibly inconsistent, he's remarkably consistent. You really spouted off some paranoid shit dude.Very good lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 You can't find a human who knows the game who isn't impressed with Wentz. But, you are a big Browns fan. Unlike you, I have family with the Browns. You're out of your depth.Still impressed??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Wentz has had a tough stretch here no doubt. I'll still take the kid over Goff. Goff is downright putrid. Plus, Goff had no clue the sun rises in the east until somebody told him on Hard Knocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Diabler that wasn't the argument. Mofo has proclaimed Wentz a stud, elite. Deemer said pump brakes. Mofo gave me some PFF ranking. Deemer won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Diabler that wasn't the argument. Oh, I know it wasn't. It's just amazing how bad Goff is. He's just clueless out there. Saw an opening to take a shot at Goff and I took it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 We will see if Mofo's prediction will pan out but Deemer schooled him here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I think Wentz can be a good NFL QB. The team around him just isn't that good. That WR core is pretty bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Deem knew here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Deem knew here What was the trade? I don't even remember. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viejo Dinosaur Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 I think Wentz can be a good NFL QB. The team around him just isn't that good. That WR core is pretty bad. Just a Super Bowl ring for everyone.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Just a Super Bowl ring for everyone.... Check the time stamp Chief. This was 2016. The Eagles finished 7-9 that season and in the NFC East basement. They were not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 12, 2018 Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Wentz HOF caliber QB lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2018 Wentz HOF caliber QB lmao I don't know about HOF, but I'll stick with Wentz as a good NFL QB. Eagles skill position players were wiped out with injuries this year. Not really fair to judge him based on this year. Last season he was the favorite to win the MVP until he got hurt. He's shown he can light the league up. Now he just needs to prove he can sustain a high level play over a long sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguesser Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 While Cleve was stupid to pass on Wentz, Mahomes, Watson, Goff, all's well that ends well because Baker is gonna be pretty special also, they are rid of Hue, they have exceeded(if you got in early) or will exceed their o/u projected wins, and they might be the division favorite going into 2019. If they get the right HC next year, they should be a power for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I'd rather have Wentz than Mayfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I'd rather have Wentz than Mayfield.Insanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Mayfield is better than all the above, including Mahomes. Mahomes has a great offensive mind and weapons. Watson and Wentz are injury prone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deemer Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Kessler a bright spot in shitty season. Much better than expected, maybe they don't need to draft a QB.Uh oh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 Mayfield is better than all the above, including Mahomes. Mahomes has a great offensive mind and weapons. Watson and Wentz are injury proneLOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjt Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 While Cleve was stupid to pass on Wentz, Mahomes, Watson, Goff, all's well that ends well because Baker is gonna be pretty special also, they are rid of Hue, they have exceeded(if you got in early) or will exceed their o/u projected wins, and they might be the division favorite going into 2019. If they get the right HC next year, they should be a power for years.They’ll fuck up and hire Gregg Williams permanently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol Aristatel Posted December 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I'd rather have Wentz than Mayfield. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownsfan Posted December 13, 2018 Report Share Posted December 13, 2018 I'd rather have Wentz than Mayfield.From what I’ve seen so far, I’ll take Mayfield all day (Browns were still morons for passing on all the QBs recently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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