IAG Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-house-obamacare-vote-20170504-story.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Tremendous victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 fuk trump can't wait until kim jong kills him dead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Who here does not have a pre-existing condition? JFC the US healthcare (insurance) system is such a fucking scam. Says the happy (to be) Canadian!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Who here does not have a pre-existing condition? JFC the US healthcare (insurance) system is such a fucking scam. Says the happy (to be) Canadian!! Yeah, but it doesn't matter if you are on a group plan through your job. Self employed, retired or unemployed who are not yet on Medicare will probably be hit the hardest. I haven't read enough about it yet, and it's possible it will be tweaked in the Senate, but from the little I've read it doesn't sound good for some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Promises made Promises kept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plommer Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Yeah, but it doesn't matter if you are on a group plan through your job. Self employed, retired or unemployed who are not yet on Medicare will probably be hit the hardest. I haven't read enough about it yet, and it's possible it will be tweaked in the Senate, but from the little I've read it doesn't sound good for some.Copper the biggest problem with the US system is that you have bean counters (in a for profit business) making decisions that affect peoples SURVIVAL.Bean counter loyalty is to the company and I understand that but its fundamentally wrong for a for profit business to be making decisions on a persons well being based on profitability. I doubt you will agree, but this is truly the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 congratulations fukko you just made the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Copper the biggest problem with the US system is that you have bean counters (in a for profit business) making decisions that affect peoples SURVIVAL.Bean counter loyalty is to the company and I understand that but its fundamentally wrong for a for profit business to be making decisions on a persons well being based on profitability. I doubt you will agree, but this is truly the case. I don't disagree with this but putting our Government in control of our healthcare is a disaster waiting to happen. I don't know the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepy Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Copper the biggest problem with the US system is that you have bean counters (in a for profit business) making decisions that affect peoples SURVIVAL.Bean counter loyalty is to the company and I understand that but its fundamentally wrong for a for profit business to be making decisions on a persons well being based on profitability. I doubt you will agree, but this is truly the case. cop is a straight up piece of fukkin shit who the fuk celebrates people losing their health insurance other than pieces of fukkin shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I don't disagree with this but putting our Government in control of our healthcare is a disaster waiting to happen. I don't know the answer.I know letting the bean counters dictate our health is not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Promises made Promises keptIt will be TREMENDOUS healthcare for everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Cop now a big fan of Obama/TrumpCare as I predicted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Promises madePromises keptBig promise broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Rs making themselves and staff exempt from changes. TREMENDOUS healthcare package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 cop is a straight up piece of fukkin shit who the fuk celebrates people losing their health insurance other than pieces of fukkin shitSaid this all along man has no soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Big promise broken. From what I've seen... it doesnt allow insurers to deny you for pre existing conditions. it just allows them to charge you more Why shouldn't they? The point of insurance is to buy it in case something were to happen to you. Not wait until you get sick and then buy it. Do you buy car insurance after you have an accident? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Square Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 cop is a straight up piece of fukkin shit who the fuk celebrates people losing their health insurance other than pieces of fukkin shit and then some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 From what I've seen... it doesnt allow insurers to deny you for pre existing conditions. it just allows them to charge you more Why shouldn't they? The point of insurance is to buy it in case something were to happen to you. Not wait until you get sick and then buy it. Do you buy car insurance after you have an accident?From what I see it does, but regardless I don't understand what you're saying. I have not been a day in my life without insurance – not a day. I could now get charged up to $1600 per month for insurance because I had back surgery seven years ago and have been diagnosed with depression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Tremendous victory Bill rapes people with employer purchased coverage as well. I really hope it passes the Senate so everyone can see how badly they are being fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 From what I've seen... it doesnt allow insurers to deny you for pre existing conditions. it just allows them to charge you more Why shouldn't they? The point of insurance is to buy it in case something were to happen to you. Not wait until you get sick and then buy it. Do you buy car insurance after you have an accident? Lol so why so against the individual mandate? So i get to go back to paying 2500 a month because I had cancer 17 years ago. Sweet! Have to make 1.7M to offset it with the tax break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 From what I see it does, but regardless I don't understand what you're saying. I have not been a day in my life without insurance – not a day. I could now get charged up to $1600 per month for insurance because I had back surgery seven years ago and have been diagnosed with depression. I wasn't specifically talking about you. But as with everything... Ther will be winners and there will be losers. Just like with Obamacare. Just the way the world works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I wasn't specifically talking about you. But as with everything... Ther will be winners and there will be losers. Just like with Obamacare. Just the way the world works.How do you think it helps the economy if the rito's and IAG's are paying $1600/month for insurance? How about a family plan if a kid has a medical issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 For the record, one of the reasons I voted for Trump was to repeal the ACA because I don't like t as a whole, but, I was going withthe assumption he would do what he said and keep the pre-existing condition provisions in tact. Of course I should've known, because there's really no way to cover that group without the mandate. I don't mind paying more for being in some sort of high-risk category. For years I faithfully wrote my check for 500+ per month. But 1500+ per month is ridic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAG Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I wasn't specifically talking about you. But as with everything... Ther will be winners and there will be losers. Just like with Obamacare. Just the way the world works.I guess. And ultimately the RItos and IAGs will probably be OK, because I will just never not have insurance no matter what it costs me, but there's going to be a lot of people that won't be. I guess we'll see how it shakes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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