FISHHEAD Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 As always, excellent points FW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzmocashzz Posted May 5, 2017 Report Share Posted May 5, 2017 The passage is being well received overallwhat alternate universe are you from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Outstanding piece of legislation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifty cint Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 what alternate universe are you from LOL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Insurance should be for things in life you have but don't need; ie cars, homes, materialistic items. Health care is something you need in life no matter who you are. Everyone doesn't need to own a car or a home. Every person alive needs to have health care. Comparing materialistic items to an essential piece of life is just nonsensical. A person's ability to live a healthy life should not be dictated by businesses and a marketplace. Well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyF0cker Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Outstanding piece of legislation Sure. Until your employer drops your health care benefits because of the extreme costs. Be careful what you wish for. This bill is a giant fucking turd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Well said.Not well said, a persons ability to live a healthy life should be 'enhanced" by businesses and the marketplace, if it's the govt you have no choice, other than that which was chosen by corrupt, imbecile bureaurcrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRevolver Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Guys like Merlin and Cop don't care because they have state insurance paid by tax payers. Couldn't care less about everyone else that gets fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigrunner Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 The passage is being well received overallVery similar to "Bill O'Reilly doing nothing wrong". Lol Na na na na hey, hey good bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Guys like Merlin and Cop don't care because they have state insurance paid by tax payers. Couldn't care less about everyone else that gets fucked. Even pieces of shit can make money in America. Weird place we have here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Outstanding piece of legislationObamaCare looking good now. Where Trump leads, you will follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 ObamaCare looking good now. Where Trump leads, you will follow. Obamacare never looked good. A complete failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 1/3 of the state's only have one insurer. Just heard people's rates in Maryland are going up 50%. Iowa will have no insurers by the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FISHHEAD Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Obamacare never looked good..YES It's all about the same either way...... ........nothing significant changing in the healthcare system or on the insurance end of any significance for at least 10 years. Enjoy life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 For the past several months we've observed in complete amazement as Democrats have repeatedly hailed the 'great accomplishments' of Obamacare while the system was literally, and quite tangibly, collapsing in epic fashion all around them. The latest evidence of Obamacare's "death spiral" comes from the state of Maryland where insurers have just submitted their rate increase requests to Insurance Commissioner Al Redmer. Unfortunately for Maryland residents the numbers are fairly staggering, in a bad way, with the largest insurer in the Mid-Atlantic region, CareFirst Blue Cross Blue Shield, requesting a 50% YoY premium increase. The new rates would mean that a 40-year-old nonsmoker in the Baltimore area would face premiums ranging from $359 a month to $715 for a benchmark plan, before receiving any federal subsidies. CareFirst said the rate increases are necessary because the company has lost $600 million serving ObamaCare exchanges since the company first started selling plans in the marketplace 4 years ago. Meanwhile, the proposed 2018 rate hike of 50% comes on top of a 25% hike in 2017 meaning that Maryland residents will be paying 87.5% more for individual health insurance plans in 2018 than they were in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Obamacare never looked good. A complete failure.You are loving it now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 It was an unsustainable plan from the start. You can't make people buy what they don't want. Recently one of the architects of Obamacare said that the only problem was that the fine for not buying insurance wasn't large enough. These people are fucking delusional Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 It was an unsustainable plan from the start. You can't make people buy what they don't want. Recently one of the architects of Obamacare said that the only problem was that the fine for not buying insurance wasn't large enough. These people are fucking delusional Not well said, a persons ability to live a healthy life should be 'enhanced" by businesses and the marketplace, if it's the govt you have no choice, other than that which was chosen by corrupt, imbecile bureaurcrats. You two are beyond help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rito Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 It was an unsustainable plan from the start. You can't make people buy what they don't want. Recently one of the architects of Obamacare said that the only problem was that the fine for not buying insurance wasn't large enough. These people are fucking delusional The plan is working just fine in the states that implemented it properly. Hopefully what comes out of this is in the economically prosperous blue states like Colorado and California is we just get better and the shithole red states just get worse. Obviously you will continue to live in a blue state. You should move to a conservative paradise like Arkansas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Call Heads Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 1/3 of the state's only have one insurer. Just heard people's rates in Maryland are going up 50%. Iowa will have no insurers by the end of the year.Trump has been saying he is going to deliver TREMENDOUS healthcare. His voters have believed him. R middle and lower income support for govt provided healthcare is skyrocketing. God bless Donald Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Guys like Merlin and Cop don't care because they have state insurance paid by tax payers. Couldn't care less about everyone else that gets fucked. Your attempts to insult are feeble and amusing at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 1/3 of the state's only have one insurer. Just heard people's rates in Maryland are going up 50%. Iowa will have no insurers by the end of the year.Then you bypass the poor desolate insurance companies and have a national plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Then you bypass the poor desolate insurance companies and have a national plan. How do propose we pay for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWarning Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 How do propose we pay for that?I posted it yesterday, 5% tax on gross income. We'll cap it at $10 mil income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cop Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Medicaid and medicare are already bankrupting our country yet you want to put 300 million people in it? Do you people not understand that we are going bankrupt? Tough cuts are gonna have to be made in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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